[ansel12]

Fine, let the libertarians drop all of the social leftism until conservatives and libertarians can recreate the economic fantasy first, once we reduce government, eliminate all the programs and so on, and get us back to 1790 America economically and government wise, then we look at the libertarian issues of the gay agenda and abortion.

That sounds more fair, since supposedly the libers only want all the social leftism and open borders in that perfect America described, surely not in the reality of the America that we have today.

Let us change the libertarian order of “change”. First eliminate all government programs by persuading the voters to vote to return to America of 1790, once we accomplish all that, which shouldn’t take long, then we vote on the social part of the liber agenda.

[Sakity Yaks]

let the libertarians drop all of the social leftism

Already done -- "get the government out of it" drops all social leftism.

[tacticalogic]

First eliminate all government programs by persuading the voters to vote to return to America of 1790,

Were your own tactics used against you, that statement would be used to accuse you of advocating a return to slavery.