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“One problem is that so few people are truly interested in government. They vote in every other presidential election, and thats it. If more people were actively and patriotically involved in their local government, trying to do whats best for their local area, then I believe that the federal government wouldn’t be so out of control.”

Agreed, to a point. I think if politicians were stopped at the local level, instead of the knee-jerk party lever polling, we’d be in a better place. The pols learned long ago what letter (D/R) to attach to their name in what district and get elected. If people even knew the issues, they’d weed out a ton of the politicials by their own words. People don’t want tyranny, they want to be lazy, but that just brings tyranny.

There’s three parts of society, the producers, the tyrants and the enables. I think a lot of “Big L” libertarians fall in the enabler group.

And beyond, a return to local trade and commerce would really help. If people bought goods made locally, ate food grown locally, contributed their skills to local improvements, and banded together with neighbors in time of local trouble, then I think people would have a greater sense of pride, patriotism, and self-reliance. I also think that a more agrian society would aid in all this.

Thats not to say that I don't think the federal government has an important place in overall government, especially regarding defense and secure borders.