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Moments that changed America (Sept 2008)

Posted on 10/01/2010 9:44:25 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: geologist
spending out of control monies in Iraq,
Hmmmm, you a Ron Paul kid?
Must not have been too out of control since our economy kept growing and he cut the deficit in half in 3 years as the WOT continued.

getting people in homes of their own, not qualified,

President Bush did that?!?! Geez, I thought it was the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, the steroids Clinton pumped into that Act, along with Freddie/Fannie and the commies in CONgre$$ that regulated the lending institutions by forcing them to give homes to those who could not pay for them. Oh, and a little help from Obama when he actually "worked" representing ACORN in their suit against Citibank alleging redlining.

not guarding the border,

President Bush did more to secure the border than any President since Eisenhower. After 9-11 President Bush stopped a lot of things that were to transpire by 2007, IIRC.

not wanting to send illegals back to Mexico,

What ARE you talking about?

(He signed and agreement Prosperity Partnership which followed NAFTA begun by Bush's Father and also Clinton) with Mexico, and Canada,

Here is a NEWS FLASH for you ... NAFTA began under RONALD REAGAN, not Bush 41!

* November 13, 1979
While officially declaring his candidacy for President, Ronald Reagan proposes a “North American Agreement” which will produce “a North American continent in which the goods and people of the three countries will cross boundaries more freely.”

* January 1981
President Ronald Reagan proposes a North American common market.

* October 9, 1984
The US Congress adopts the Trade and Tariff Act, an omnibus trade act that notably extends the powers of the president to concede trade benefits and enter into bilateral free trade agreements. The Act would be passed on October 30, 1984.

* December 10, 1985
President Reagan officially informs Congress about his intention to negotiate a free trade agreement with Canada under the authority of trade promotion. Referred to as fast track, trade promotion authority is an accelerated legislative procedure which obliges the House of Representatives and the Senate to decide within 90 days whether or not to establish a trade trade unit. No amendments are permitted.

* October 3, 1987
Conclusion of the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement (FTA) in Washington.

* November 6, 1987
Signing of a framework agreement between the US and Mexico.

* January 2, 1988
Prime Minister Mulroney and President Reagan sign the FTA.

* January 1, 1989
The FTA takes effect.

* February 5, 1991
Negotiations between the US and Mexico aimed at liberalizing trade between the two countries officially become trilateral at the request of the Canadian government.

Doing away with our borders soon, and operating the truck highway route from the coast of Mexico all the way through America to Kansas City before the trucks were to be inspected,
and then shipped out from Kansan City to the north and to points north and to the coasts.

See the FTA and NAFTA agreements. All this was in place long before President Bush took office.

He agreed to the union of Canada, America, and Mexico, the North American Union, and new money, the AMERO.

See the FTA and NAFTA agreements. All this was in place long before President Bush took office.

Also, President bush wanted to allow foreign control of our sea ports. United Emirates IIRC.

Yes, it was United ARAB Emirates. Funny how the demonrats were so opposed to the deal, but are perfectly happy with the Victory Mosque at Ground Zero. And just an FYI, the vast majority of port operations in this country are handled by foreign firms.

Bush did many things to send our manufacturing corporations overseas.

Since I know nothing about this I will simply ask for a source. Was there any manufacturing left in this country when President Bush came into office?

41 posted on 10/01/2010 7:44:24 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: justiceseeker93
Thanks for the info, justiceseeker93.

I remember when Paulson was tapped, but was not that interested and was pretty busy with the Troops and such at that time. Sorry I was unaware of the demonRAT label.

42 posted on 10/01/2010 7:51:03 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Whatever. I do not have to justify anything to you.

Whatever is a great answer commonly used by the commies.

No, of course you do not have to justify anything to me or anyone else. You are free to lie and make false claims with impunity behind an anonymous screen name.

As a long time FReeper I am sure you remember the good old days here on FR when one was expected to source their claims. Ahhhhh, memories.

43 posted on 10/01/2010 8:02:26 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

Click on my name, jackass. I have been here twice as long as you and I remember when it was okay to criticize a person when they went socialist.


44 posted on 10/01/2010 8:18:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Put up or shut up time

Are you talking to me?

If so...here you go...

When everything was at stake, when the chips were on the table. When Henry Paulson came into his office and asked him in pretty much buy a bunch of banks, the President couldn't say no. Why couldn't he say no ? All he had to say was hell no. When all of the pressure of the free world on his shoulders, with eyes wide open.. he simply sold out. He sold us down the river and I will never forgive him for that, nor should you.

This is the crux of your vanity, correct?

You did get a couple of things right:
When everything was at stake
When all of the pressure of the free world
[was] on his shoulders

Yes, EVERYTHING was at stake and he did have all the pressure not only of the free world, but the entire world, on his shoulders.
And a couple of things wrong:
All he had to say was hell no.
he simply sold out.
He sold us down the river and
I will never forgive him for that, nor should you

You will never forgive him and I will never stop thanking him for saving not only the US economy, but the world economy from complete and utter collapse!

I'm tired of posting the same stuff over and over so I will simply give you a link to a summary post I did on this subject, plus a couple of other links. I hope you will click and read them. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2260007/posts?page=76#76

Who Attacked Our Economy? Why Does No One Care?

9/11/2008 CATASTROPHIC FINANCIAL TERRORIST ATTACK CAUSED ECONOMIC MELTDOWN

TARP:
Was the Bush TARP Program a Mistake?

Bush’s $350 Billion TARP is About to Break Even


Hope this is enough meat on the bone to keep you busy and informed.

45 posted on 10/01/2010 9:29:55 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Click on my name, jackass.
Oh, I did. First word is Christian.

Later: I believe that the Libertarian Party is how my personal philosophy fits best

Says all I need to know.

I see your reading comprehension is not up to par.
I said: As a long time FReeper I am sure you remember

That was referring to YOU as the long time FReeper.

I certainly did not say anything about criticizing a person. What I said was:

You are free to lie and make false claims with impunity behind an anonymous screen name.

There was a time here on FR when one was expected to source their claims. Outright lying or making false claims was frowned upon.

You stated your opinion as fact. I asked you to supply something...anything to support your statements.
Your replies were rude, avoided the issues and call me a jackass. Niiiiiice!

46 posted on 10/01/2010 9:54:56 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Blood of Tyrants
WOW! I just read your FRmail. Lovely!
47 posted on 10/01/2010 10:16:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

Well, true enough. Bush was popular enough to get elected. So was Obama. But neither are popular now and with good reason. They are big spenders and that hurts the people and our rights.


48 posted on 10/02/2010 3:31:44 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Just A Nobody

Just because I am a Christian doesn’t mean that I don’t recognize a jackass when I encounter one.


49 posted on 10/02/2010 9:57:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Fits you perfectly, doesn’t it?


50 posted on 10/02/2010 9:57:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Just A Nobody
Okay, my comments were a bit general. Yet, to get into all the details almost makes a book.

Bush 2 did some good things, I like him essentially. What really surprised me was how much of a ‘one world government supporter’ he was/is. His father was/is and somehow I failed to realize he agreed with his Father's ideas. My bad.

He was a active supporter of what I consider to be the wrong direction for America and our way of life. Our government based on Our Constitution, values and principles.

Actually one could write a book in reference to this whole discussion.

I did an (poor)overview and it is MOO.

America is still basically in the ‘everything will work out and it will be okay’mode. We have strong enemies against us and many of them are in positions of power in high places, if we wait until their plans have all taken place, and are LAW, it will be too late to recover.

Read History, it has happened to all nations over and over, man does not change. There is good and there is evil. Do not be deceived. There is powerful deception in play now.

MO

51 posted on 10/02/2010 10:06:48 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: geologist
There is a line of 50, to 80 years or more that socialist, communist changes, and radicals that desire to be the modern day Hitler, Stalin, Chavez, Castro, Pol Pot, etc.

The Debt that we now have is and has been declared unsustainable. We might can hang on for a short time but huge changes are coming.

Know the elite are against the middle class, and are doing it in asap.

52 posted on 10/02/2010 10:15:55 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Just A Nobody

It did not save the economy. It started a series of a events that will lead to the total destruction of the US dollar.

You are 100% wrong


53 posted on 10/02/2010 12:50:18 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: geologist
What really surprised me was how much of a ‘one world government supporter’ he was/is.

I still do not see that and no one has been able to give me one good example. It continues to be said, but there is no supporting documentation to make it legitimate.

54 posted on 10/03/2010 6:20:51 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
It did not save the economy.

We still have one, however crippled it may be after 20 months of the Obamanation.

You are 100% wrong

Alrighty then. Too bad you did not read one word of one link I posted for you when you had the unmitigated gall to ask for meat on the bone. That was just a psych, right Ace?

55 posted on 10/03/2010 6:33:07 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

“...AND Michigan torching OSU!”

You obviously are smokin’ something funny... :)


56 posted on 10/03/2010 6:34:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

On any given Saturday. Just ask UCLA what can be done on Saturday’s against top ranked opponents.

Ohio State will need to play up to their talent level if they do not want to get Denarded!

Besides, it will be quite entertaining to see heisman hopeful Terrelle “everyone kills people” Pryor against the QB from Michigan that really hasn’t done much on the field this year.


57 posted on 10/03/2010 7:08:30 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (There's a revolution "brewing".....)
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To: Just A Nobody; All
Well, signing the 'Proserity Partnership of North America' is one move toward “one world”

Wanting to give The United Arab Emirates total control of America's major ports of entry for cargo, is to the goal of one World goal.

Changing the taxing on Corporations to be such that most all major corporations of them moved manufacturing out of America is stepping toward one world goal. Resulting in the loss of millions of jobs. HUGE consequence.

Refusing to close the borders, Mexico and Canada, is another major step toward "one world government". The United Nations and almost everything they do and we support is toward "One world government" and "international law. __________________________________________________________ Allowing Islamic terrorist training camps in various places around the United States, (read books IE Paul Williams and have

excerpt:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/islamic-armed-fortress-emerges-from-pocono-mountains-feds-turn-blind-eye.html

” Dozens of his universities, including the Faith University in Istanbul, train young men to become lawyers, accountants, and political leaders so that they can take an active part in the restoration of the Ottoman Empire and the Islamization of the Western World.
He also allegedly operates compounds to train jihad's in the tactics of guerrilla warfare.
This individual has amassed a fortune - - over $30 billion - - for the creation of a universal caliphate.

His name is Fethullan Gulen and he resides not in the wilds of southern Turkey - - but the mountains of Northeastern Pennsylvania.

From his fortress headquarters, located on 28 acres at 1857 Mt. Eaton Road in Saylorsburg, PA, Gulen plots the overthrow of secular governments and oversees the spread of education jihad throughout Asia, Europe, and the United States.

Gulen is surrounded by an army of over 100 Turkish Islamists, who guard him and tend to his needs. The army is comprised of armed militants who wear suits and ties and do not look like traditional Islamists in cloaks and turbans. They follow their hocaefendi’s (master lord's) orders and even refrain from marrying until age fifty per his instructions. When they do marry, their spouses are expected to dress in the Islamic manner, as dictated by Gülen himself.

The Saylorsburg property consists of a massive chalet surrounded by numerous out buildings, including recreational centers, dormitories, cabins for visiting foreign dignitaries, a helicopter pad, and firing ranges.

Neighbors complain of the incessant sounds of gunfire - - including the rat-tat-tat of fully automatic weapons - - coming the compound and the low flying helicopter that circles the area in search of all intruders.

The FBI has been called to the scene, the neighbors say, but no action has been taken to end the illegal activity.

Sentries stand guard at the gates to the estate to turn away all curiosity seekers.

Within the sentry hut are wide screen televisions that project high resolution images from security cameras.

Before the hut is a sign that reads “Golden Generation Worship and Retreat Center.”
It's hard for the local residents to understand that the Muslim who operates this compound is not an American political or intelligence official — but rather a radical Islamist from Turkey.

Gulen fled Turkey in 1998 to avoid prosecution on charges that he was attempting to undermine Turkey's secular government with the objective of establishing an Islamic government. Since his arrival in Pennsylvania, the Department of Homeland Security has been trying to deport him. But in 2008 a federal court ruled that Gulan was an individual with “extraordinary ability in the field of education” who merited permanent residence status in the U.S.

The ruling remains odd, because Gulen has no formal education training.

Gülen, according to the Middle East Quarterly, was a student and follower of Sheikh Sa’id-i Kurdi (1878-1960), also known as Sa’id-i Nursi, the founder of the Islamist Nur (light) movement. After Turkey's war of independence, Kurdi demanded, in an address to the new parliament, that the new republic be based on Islamic principles. He turned against Atatürk and his reforms and against the new modern, secular, Western republic.

How powerful is Gulen? And why is he such a threat to America and the Western world?
Consider this.

Turkey is now ruled by the Justice and Democratic Party (Adalet ve Kalkinma, AKP)- - a party under the Gulen’s control. Abdullah Gul, Turkey's first Islamist President, is a Gulen disciple along with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Yusuf Ziya Ozcan, the head of Turkey's Council of Higher Education.

Under the AKP, Turkey has transformed from a secular state into an Islamic country with 85,000 active mosques - - one for every 350- citizens - - the highest number per capita in the world, 90,000 imams, more imams than teachers and physicians - - and thousands of state-run Islamic schools.

Despite the rhetoric of European Union accession, Turkey has transferred its alliance from Europe and the United States to Russia and Iran. It has moved toward friendship with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Syria and created a pervasive anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, and anti-America animus throughout the populace.

Speaking on Monday at the inauguration ceremony of “TRT al Turkiye”, the new channel of the state run TV station TRT, Prime Minister Erdogan said Turkey will always be on the side of Muslims wherever they are.

Gulen’s tentacles stretch throughout the country since his followers, known as Fethullahists, have gained control of the country's media outlets, its financial institutions and banks, and its business organizations.

According to Bayram Balci, a Turkish scholar, the Gulen schools that have been established throughout the world seek to expand “the Islamization of Turkish nationality and the Turification of Islam” in order to bring about a universal caliphate ruled by Islamic law.

Several countries have outlawed the establishment of Gulen schools and cemaats (communities) within their borders - - including Russia and Uzbekistan. Even the Netherlands, a nation that embraces pluralism and tolerance, has opted to cut funding to the Gulen schools because of their imminent threat to the social order.

But Gulen’s activities in the United States, including the establishment of an armed fortress in the midst of the Pocono Mountains, have escaped national press attention.

In his public statements, Gulen espouses a liberal version of Sunni/Hanafi Islam and promotes the Muslim notion of hizmet - - altruistic service to the common good.

Despite the paramilitary training at his Pocono fortress, Gulen has condemned terrorism and called for interfaith dialogue. He has met with Pope John Paul II, the Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomeos, and Israeli Sephardic Head Rabbi Eliyahu Bakshi-Doron.

In private, Gulen has stated that “in order to reach the ideal Muslim society ‘every method and path is acceptable, [including] lying to people.’”
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and so on there is great evidence of President George W. Bush's ... “One World Government” support.

It was in many of his actions.

Just the PPNA agreement is catastrophic. New money, the Amero as Putin announced and showed on TV. Bush did not originate much of these agreements , ... but he supported and augmented them during his terms.

58 posted on 10/04/2010 9:46:21 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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