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To: Captain Kirk; allmendream
Total BS, not even a hint of a clue of historic accuracy as usual CK.

EVEN after the 2nd bomb was dropped and the Emperor made the decision to surrender, Japanese militarists stormed the Imperial Palace and tied to prevent the surrender from happening. Only because Hirohito loyalists hid the recording announcing the surrender from them did it take place.

At the time the decision was made too surrender, no decision had been made regarding the status of the Emperor. That came after the Japanese decided to surrender. The reason they left Hirohito in place had more to do with concerns about stability in Japan and growing Soviet influence in the region. It was NOT on the table by either side PRIOR to the 2nd bomb being dropped.

Like most of you postings CK, you are totally devote of accuracy or fact.

59 posted on 09/28/2010 8:16:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie
EVEN after the 2nd bomb was dropped and the Emperor made the decision to surrender, Japanese militarists stormed the Imperial Palace and tied to prevent the surrender from happening. Only because Hirohito loyalists hid the recording announcing the surrender from them did it take place.

Tried is right. The failed to prevent the conditional surrender from happening. The rebellion did not fail primarily because a record was hidden. It failed because it did not receive sufficient support from the military. In any case, a failed rebellion hardly proves anything one way or the other

At the time the decision was made too surrender, no decision had been made regarding the status of the Emperor. That came after the Japanese decided to surrender. The reason they left Hirohito in place had more to do with concerns about stability in Japan and growing Soviet influence in the region. It was NOT on the table by either side PRIOR to the 2nd bomb being dropped.

Simply not true. In agreeing to the Postdam Declration, Hirohito specifically added this condition:

"The Japanese Government are ready to accept the terms enumerated in the joint declaration which was issued at Potsdam on July 26th, 1945, by the heads of the Governments of the United States, Great Britain, and China, and later subscribed to by the Soviet Government, with the understanding that the said declaration does not comprise any demand which prejudices the prerogatives of His Majesty as a Sovereign Ruler.

As a result, there was an instense debate among Truman's advisors on whether to accept this condition. Jimmy Byrnes, Truman's Secretary of State, said we should keep on fighting but James Forrestal, Admiral Leahy and Stimson urged Truman to agree. Truman overrode Byrnes, arguing that "the thought of wiping out our another 100,000 people [is] just too horrible," and ordered a reply to be drafted accepting the the Japanese offer.

Like most of you postings CK, you are totally devote of accuracy or fact.

I love you too.

68 posted on 09/28/2010 8:43:05 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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