Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren
INDEED.
It’s going to be interesting to see who the diehard
naysayers/government shills hereon will turn out to be after this conference.
Thx!
It will also be interesting to see if there are any apologies forthcoming. I’m not holding my breath. LOL.
IF
you have the time and care to bother . . .
it would be great to link the other recent threads on this topic to this one.
I won’t be able to get to it for some time.
IF YOU OR ANYONE
cares to jot down some key sentences from the videos and post them,
that would be great, too.
For example, previously IIRC there was no mention of 1' diameter lights scanning him and his men from an overhead craft and there was no mention of the towers seeing UFO's both visually and on radar.
I will go back through the long tape and make notes when I get some time.
IMO, this press conference was the smoking gun of eyewitness accounts of "first" and "second kind" encounters.
I AGREE ENTIRELY.
THX THX.
here are two good links for the
Naional Press Club Conference yesterday in D.C. about our nuke missiles and UFO interventions etc. with senior military officers testifying:
CNN VERSION:
ANOTHER LINK:
This capacity for denial was brought home to me just this week, when, doing research for a work of fiction obliquely involving the subject of nephilim and fallen angels, I was reminded how Orthodox Jewish scholars and many Christian theologians all the way back to St. Augustine and John Chrysostom teach (against Scripture) that the giants were human (sons of Seth) and not hybrids.
Jewish Orthodox Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai (Israel 70 BC) went to far as pronounce a curse on anyone teaching the fallen angel idea. Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo Yitzhaki - 1040-1105) and Nachmanides (Rabbi Moses ben Nachman Girondi, 1194 – 1270 ) both went along with this premise (not sure about what they think of the curse).
I don't think I have time at present, but I am curious to find out how Nachmanides incorporates I Enoch into his thinking and life's work. If a person accepts I Enoch as part of God's word, that person cannot deny the Nephilim/Fallen Angel position. The fact that I Enoch was part of the Dead Sea Scrolls must have thrown present day "Sons of Seth" adherents for a loop.;-)
As an aside, I have been reading Onkelos on the Torah: Understanding the Bible Text: Genesis by Israel Drazin, Stanley M. Wagner to help in my research...very interesting book for understanding what the Bible and Biblical scholars say about the report of the spies sent out by Moses when the Promised Land was reached (the spies who reported that they encountered giants, "Sons of Anak")!
INDEED.
If you haven’t watched the DVD’s available from Guy Malone’s site at
I think you need to for your research. Might save you a lot of digging. They’ve done it extensively.
And our own Alamo-Girl; is somewhat of an expert on Enoch
Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
And you for yours, Dear Sister in Christ.
That said, my primary goal at present is to determine...
(1) how are the post-Flood giant bloodlines connected to the antediluvian ones (i.e. through the wives of Noah's sons OR did someone actually survive the Flood OR other?).
(2) what if any archaeological evidence exists that can be traced to the post-Flood giant tribes,
(3) what are the written languages of the post Flood giant tribes in the mid-2nd millennium BC (one of the many cuneiform dialects or possibly even hieroglyphics in the case of the Amalekites who lived on the Sinai Peninsula in the time of Moses?).
Also, thx for the suggestion about Guy Malone!
Any thoughts?
Thx in advance for any direction you might provide.
Angel-Gal might well have some input on that. She’s studied a lot of that ilk of thing.
But best ask her!
Guy Malone is the real deal. Authentic Christian, fun, zaney, decent bloke, solid researcher.
To: Quix
I am still interested—as mentioned previously—to see if I can find any defensible logic as to why and how early Church fathers and great and early Torah scholars dismissed Enoch so passionately. As far as I can tell, they all twist themselves into pretzels to avoid the fallen angel intermingle concept. Do you think Alamo-Girl would have any knowledge of that subject?
That said, my primary goal at present is to determine...
(1) how are the post-Flood giant bloodlines connected to the antediluvian ones (i.e. through the wives of Noah’s sons OR did someone actually survive the Flood OR other?).
(2) what if any archaeological evidence exists that can be traced to the post-Flood giant tribes,
(3) what are the written languages of the post Flood giant tribes in the mid-2nd millennium BC (one of the many cuneiform dialects or possibly even hieroglyphics in the case of the Amalekites who lived on the Sinai Peninsula in the time of Moses?).
Also, thx for the suggestion about Guy Malone!
Here’s my ignorant off the cuff responses to the following:
(1) how are the post-Flood giant bloodlines connected to the antediluvian ones (i.e. through the wives of Noah’s sons OR did someone actually survive the Flood OR other?).
QX I do not think/believe any of those running around on the surface interacting with humans survived the flood. IF they did, they must have been in sealed suberranian or subsea havens.
It has been stated that Noah’s purity of DNA was one of the criteria involved in his selection etc.
(2) what if any archaeological evidence exists that can be traced to the post-Flood giant tribes,
There’s LOTS of archeological evidence in California, China, Balkans etc. re giants 15 feet tall etc. You can track down their skeleton pics via dogpile.com.
Search for
GIANTS + SKELETONS + PICS
or some such
(3) what are the written languages of the post Flood giant tribes in the mid-2nd millennium BC (one of the many cuneiform dialects or possibly even hieroglyphics in the case of the Amalekites who lived on the Sinai Peninsula in the time of Moses?).
I don’t have any hint of anything in my noggin in those directions. Sorry.
Considering that caves were common dwellings at that time anyway, one with a very large air pocket (it would need a large supply of oxygen) might have been easily used by some or many enterprising fallen offspring.
As to (2), I should have been clearer. I mean archaeological evidence traceable to those giant tribes in ancient post-Flood Israel.
I was pondering . . .
Evidently there was some at least resurfacing . . . in some sense . . .
Goliath was after the flood!
Whether the critters descended to earth again to pollute the bloodlines . . . or what . . .
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