[Vanity] - Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?

09/17/2010 | Personal

[hylandia]

I live in San Francisco, and I think you all know what that implies. I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and nearly everyone I interact with daily is as well. I read Free Republic most days to try to understand why Obamacare is so hated, and why the Ground Zero Mosque is taking such flak. And to be honest, I understand most of the viewpoints here. I don't agree, but I understand. The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration. Is it strictly a legal opposition? Workers that flaunt our laws at the border are likely to flaunt others? Or are there other reasons? I promise not to post again... so the zotting is a foregone response. I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.

[Vaduz]

Think of one word LAW.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I see that you want to destroy America.

We kinda frown on that....

I B T Z

[Darksheare]

What does the LAW say about ILLEGAL immmigration?
FEDERAL LAW says that it is UNLWAFUL i.e. ILLEGAL to be in this country without proper authorization.
Why do you support breaking the law?
Why do you feel that breaking the law is okay?
Are you a lawbreaker yourself and should you currently be in jail?

[Arrowhead1952]

My point was simply to try to understand why people, on the other side of the aisle, are against illegal immigration.

See that BOLD and underlined word? What part about ILLEGAL do you NOT understand? If the law says murder is a crime and you kill someone is that not illegal too? As I replied earlier, you must be a real dumbass.

We are a nation of laws, not of letting people come here illegally. If you don't obey the laws, you are also a criminal. Take a look at Mexico's immigration laws. As Calderon, when asked about someone entering their country illegally, he said, "We send back them".

[TheOldLady]

Sorrrreeee! I couldn't keep Lucas (Prince of Darkness) away from your cake.

[bcsco]

You want a lucid response? All of the above.

Also, here's a link to my daily ping which should help further clarify.

At least you're open and upfront on your beliefs. That's a credit to you. On the other hand, those who sneak across the border, take work that could well go to Americans (yeah, I know your beliefs on that...), become a major drain on our economy, and are becoming a greater and more serious threat to our national security, do you really believe they're being open and up front with us? Think about that for awhile.

Regarding your reference to "other reasons" for our desire for them to leave and not return (and, yes, I know what you're implying, just like a good little liberal), I don't care if they're Hispanic, Danish Swedes or Germans (my ancestry), I don't want them here if they can't be honest about it. And I certainly don't want them here when their substantiated goal is to regain a major part of American land for Mexican control. Period. End of paragraph.

Now do you get the point?

[mojitojoe]

Here's your IBZ answer.

Illegal Immigrants

I cross river, poor and broke,

Take bus, see employment folk.

Nice man treat me good in there,

Say I need go see Welfare.

Welfare say, 'You come no more,

We send cash right to your door.

Welfare checks, they make you wealthy,

Medicaid it keep you healthy!

By and by, Got plenty money,

Thanks to you, TAXPAYER dummy.

Write to friends in motherland

Tell them 'come, fast as you can'

They come in buses and Ford trucks,

I buy big house with welfare bucks

They come here, we live together,

More welfare checks, it gets better!

Fourteen families, they moving in,

But neighbor's patience wearing thin

Finally, white guy moves away,

I buy his house, and then I say,

'Find more aliens for house to rent.'

In my yard I put a tent.

Send for family they just trash,

But they, too, draw welfare cash!

Everything is very good,

Soon we own whole neighborhood..

We have hobby it called breeding,

Welfare pay for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?

We get free! We got no bills!

TAXPAYER crazy!

He pay all year, To keep welfare running here.

We think America darn good place!

Too darn good for white man race.

If they no like us, they can go,

Got lots of room in Mexico .

[mojitojoe]

I’m so stealing that. :)

[ThomasThomas]

Fair is a word understood by the left.

It is not fair for the people who are honest and law abiding and follow the immigration laws. It takes a lot of work and time to become a citizen legally.

Respect is also a word used by the left.

By coming here illegally they are saying we are better than you, your laws and constitution. Most do not respect Americans of any race but demand to be respected. Would you be ok with a with a white group calling themselves The Race. What do you think they mean when they say La Raza?

[mojitojoe]

IBTZ for a change.

[rolling_stone]

Oh man I sure could use that, Wonderful!

[RandallFlagg]

ROTFLMAO!! That was great!

[rolling_stone]

Let em all in, every swinging person who wants to come, then we can all work for a dollar a day and eat rice and dog meat and speak dozens of languages and Balkanize the USA, yeah that’s the ticket.

[bcsco]

You hear a lot in the media about the problem of illegal immigration, but you actually hear very little about the why.

You live in San Francisco. That's your first problem with the reasons for this. No, I'm serious. You're comfortably protected by your local culture and media from what the majority of Americans think, believe and live. Have you ever spent an amount of time (no, I'm not referring to the occasional visit or vacation) in America's Heartland? If you had, you may well find it far different from how the pointy-head elitists view us from their intellectual snuggeries (Holy cow, this backward racist-fascist knows a word like that?). Our difference is we don't base our decisions on our emotions (although we're human so we have them too). We base our decisions on conclusions that stem from fact. It's essentially that which sets us apart. And, all else comes from that.

Which leads me to this: Your joining FR, and the posting of this thread, show an attempt on your own to venture into reasoning based on fact, not emotion. Hopefully, based on what comes of that decision, you may find it a worthwhile venture and something worth repeating. Who knows, you may even one day wake up and see the truth. That would be nice...

[mojitojoe]

Hi LJ....Elections always bring out the trolls. Especially since the Dems are about to get their as$es handed to them on a platter, expect it to be especially bad. :)

[little jeremiah]

I live in a world where time has no meaning...

That is, I forget things like “last election cycle trolls were very bad”.

[Vendome]

Whatever.

You imferred I was had a position on immigration which I do not.

BTW, why is a man using a girls name as a handle?

[TheOldLady]

Bank of Amigo and their “credit cards for illegal aliens” lost my business immediately after I heard about that travesty. Switched over to Schwab Bank and have been delighted ever since.

[Vendome]

Take it. I took it from another poster after spending two day reading and re-reading it. Had me laughing so hard I had to seek permission to use it.

Sadly, I cannot recall the poster who gave it to me so could include attribution.

BTW, that was only half of it.

Here is the whole enchilada:

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don’t you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I’ll bet you couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won’t go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You’re a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren’t an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn’t really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of crap among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us “normal” people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are “challenged” persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been “right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

[Vendome]

Thanks!