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Like the ’55 Chevy, the 3,000-Mile Oil Change Is Pretty Much History
Yahoo Finance ^ | September 10, 2010 | ALINA TUGEND

Posted on 09/12/2010 4:48:45 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

Is the 3,000-mile oil change outdated?
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I STILL remember learning from my father how to carefully remove a dipstick to check the oil level in our cars. It was drilled into me — along with turning off the lights when you left a room and clearing the plates off the table after dinner — that oil needs to be changed every 3,000 miles or so.

I’m not sure what I thought would happen if I didn’t, but I vaguely imagined an unlubricated engine grinding to a halt.

Childhood habits are hard to undo, and that’s often good. To this day, I hate seeing an empty room with the lights on. But sometimes, we need to throw aside our parents’ good advice. In March, for example, I wrote about how we should relearn the dishwasher and laundry soap habits we inherited from our mothers.

Add frequent oil-changing to that list.

“There was a time when the 3,000 miles was a good guideline,” said Philip Reed, senior consumer advice editor for the car site Edmunds.com. “But it’s no longer true for any car bought in the last seven or eight years.”

Oil chemistry and engine technology have improved to the point that most cars can go several thousand more miles before changing the oil, Mr. Reed said. A better average, he said, would be 7,500 between oil changes, and sometimes up to 10,000 miles or more.

The California Integrated Waste Management Board ran public service announcements for several years about “the 3,000-mile myth,” urging drivers to wait longer between oil changes. Although the information is a few years old, the board has a list of cars on its Web site and how often they need oil changes. The concern is not only the cost to

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Alot of good information and experiences. Thanks to all for sharing


41 posted on 09/12/2010 5:53:24 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I'm of the "10,000 miles or so" school of thought, providing it's synthetic oil and you are using a high quality oil filter.

My '98 S-10 comes from a fleet where I work, has 180,000 miles on it, and has had Mobil One all it's life. The mechanic at work said 15,000 miles unless it feels gritty or black.

I use extra capacity filters, and have gone 15,000 already. It runs like a top, but Mobil One isn't cheap. I also use Slick 50.

42 posted on 09/12/2010 5:58:34 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Viking2002
OK, I am a little 'green' around the edges,

Not really, if you recycle motor oil properly, (I have been doing so since 1960).

Liberals are the wasters, conservatives simply don't waste, (it is less productive, and conservatives are producers), and recycled oil is useful.

Also, you will be the perfect conservative if you can get your wife to do the oil changes.

43 posted on 09/12/2010 6:00:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Slump Tester

Post #4 and 10


44 posted on 09/12/2010 6:04:37 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Navy Patriot
Also, you will be the perfect conservative if you can get your wife to do the oil changes.

LOL~, guessing you're divorced, j/k, L~

45 posted on 09/12/2010 6:06:34 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
guessing you're divorced

Nope, I'm henpecked.

46 posted on 09/12/2010 6:17:27 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Nope, I'm henpecked.

You're in good company. I refer you to:

The 25 Most Emasculated, Disempowered Husbands

47 posted on 09/12/2010 6:25:09 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: omega4179

I am VERY lucky to be able to work from home 3 days a week and walk 3 blocks to the office the other 2 days. My 1996 Nissan Pathfinder 4WD is awesome, but remains parked most of the time. I get an oil (synthetic) change every summer, but am still hard pressed to clock 2-3k miles per year on the odometer.


48 posted on 09/12/2010 6:26:06 PM PDT by OCC
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To: wendy1946

I use a semi synthetic and change at 5,000-6,000. a 20 percent synthetic blend is cheaper than full synthetic and provides 90 percent of the protection.


49 posted on 09/12/2010 6:32:30 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Mobil 1. Change once/year. When my Taurus reached about 225,000 miles we decided that we would do a new short block when the tranny died. When we plastigaged the main bearings they were right at spec. (on the loose side of course).


50 posted on 09/12/2010 6:38:12 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: wendy1946

Yup. I run Mobile 1 now and it’s $21 for 5. I’m running past 8K on mine current one and it’s a moderate brown. I also flush it every time I change. I’m spending less now in oil changes per year as a result and only have to do it about twice a year instead of 4 or 5 times.


51 posted on 09/12/2010 6:42:08 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: wendy1946

We bought a 1990 Mazda 626 new. At 300K+ I burned a valve at a time when I had neither the time to repair it myself nor money to pay someone to do it. I drove it until it would not make it up the mountain on 3 cylinders. At 359K miles, when I finally pulled the head you could still see the hone marks on the three good cylinders. #4 was worn out from unburned gas (no compression, no burning) washing the oil off the cylinder walls.

We put a junkyard engine in it (~105K miles) and were aiming for 500K on the car when someone pulled out in front of me & it totaled the car at 426K miles.

The whole time we used Walmart brand oil, average change interval was 5000 miles.

(We have had 6 cars go over 200K miles. 3 Mazdas, 2 Subarus, one Mitsubishi. All used Walmart brand oil.)


52 posted on 09/12/2010 7:03:17 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Slump Tester

I agree with the Mobil 1, i have used exclusively Mobil One in all of my vehicle and not one has gone less than 200K miles i used to change every 7500 miles, now I used the extended life and go 15K miles but change the high cap synthetic media filter at 7500 and add back the quart the filter holds,my Ford has 210000 on its original everything and uses less than 2 quarts in 15K miles including the added quart from the filter replacement. I had a S-10 vortec 4.3 go 285K original motor&trans still going strong when i sold it the guy who bought it wanted to run a compression check so i let him every cylinder was with in 5% of factory still i was impressed it also never drank oil couple of quarts over 15k miles which is about yearly for me, i also ran against Mazda’s recomendation MB1 in my RX-7 it went 225k before i blew the apex seals at 8000+ rpm racing it on the street, my jeep 4x4 went 225k before i rolled it mudding


53 posted on 09/12/2010 7:07:33 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("If you didn't grow it you mined it")
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To: JD_UTDallas
Use Mobile 1 extended 15,000 on my Dodge Ram and change it and Fram extra mileage oil filter every 6,000 miles. Haven't had the guts to push it to 15,000 miles. Doesn't use any oil when changed at 6,000 mile interval.
54 posted on 09/12/2010 7:36:21 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Bad~Rodeo; adamjeeps
re the fuel system/gasoline quality:

when the problem began over a year ago, I upgraded to 89 (from 87) octane exclusively - which seemed to work for a while. But then even with that higher octane, and occasionally I'd put in super, it made absolutely no difference.

Yes, it's fuel-injected, and is definitely a ping (dealer describes it that way also).

I have no idea what the next step will be. Dealer said they'd be getting in touch with GM techs.

55 posted on 09/13/2010 8:13:13 AM PDT by floozy22 (The Left has an irrational devotion to protecting evil.)
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To: Parley Baer

Question: 1982 Chevy truck with a 350, 87k miles, oil changed
religiously at 3k, runs like new. Can I switch to synthetics?


56 posted on 09/13/2010 8:22:50 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: OregonRancher

I would not switch to synthetic. You may get some leaks that are “plugged” up now. If it runs fine then stay with what works. Those old GM will be fine on most any oil.


57 posted on 09/13/2010 8:27:51 AM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: OregonRancher

I would not switch to synthetic. You may get some leaks that are “plugged” up now. If it runs fine then stay with what works. Those old GM will be fine on most any oil. Go over to bobistheoilguy.com and ask the experts over there if you want more ideas.


58 posted on 09/13/2010 8:28:59 AM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: adamjeeps

Thanks, appreciate the advice.


59 posted on 09/13/2010 8:33:43 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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