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CIA money behind Wi-Fi Positioning System (WPS)
Qbit.cc ^ | 2 September 2010 | qbit

Posted on 09/06/2010 6:32:19 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 09/06/2010 6:32:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

Thanks to Whenifhow for the heads up.

2 posted on 09/06/2010 6:34:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

tinfoil hat time?


3 posted on 09/06/2010 6:36:36 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: ShadowAce

What if I don’t want them to know that I get double-pastrami on my sandwiches whenever I can?

Will they keep this info private or spill it to my wife (for a price?)

They need to name all this new location tech as “iPry.”


4 posted on 09/06/2010 6:39:42 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: ShadowAce

Why does the CIA want to know if I am eating fast food, and why does the CIA want to know what kind of fast food I am eating? Can I fool the CIA by order fast food from, say Taco Bell, but stiffing TB and going to Burger King instead? Will that be a crime? Who is going to monitor the fast-food eating habits of hundreds of millions of Americans? Will that have to be outsourced to India? Or what?


5 posted on 09/06/2010 6:45:31 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: paulycy
Will they keep this info private

No. You will be put on the list of known health care abusers. Your rates will be raised until you cannot pay at which point you will be put on a mandatory public 0 option paid for with an extra tax to be levied against the rest of us. You need this technology. It is for your own good and that of the collective. This is community organizing at its best.

6 posted on 09/06/2010 6:45:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: La Lydia
Why does the CIA want to know if I am eating fast food...

Perhaps they don't. This is just a beta program. Later on, they'll roll it out to keep track of everywhere everyone goes. They just mentioned fast food to keep people unconcerned.

7 posted on 09/06/2010 6:46:58 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

George Tenet was the Managing Director of Allen and Co. WHILE HE WAS HEAD OF THE CIA???????? REALLY?? I CAN”T BELIEVE THAT!!!


8 posted on 09/06/2010 6:47:45 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ShadowAce

The government has been using cell phone triangulation technology for almost 20 years. This article makes it sound like something new (ok, it’s wi-fi triangulation, but it’s the same idea). I think this is well known by most people. In movies you always see people tossing there cell phones or using “burners” when they want to elude the authorities.


9 posted on 09/06/2010 6:48:46 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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“Just imagine… as you approach the restaurant, a menu pops up on your screen, the phone makes suggestions and helps you super-size your order, before you even set foot in the restaurant!”

So they’ve penetrated your mobile device to sell you a cockroach infested taco? Two crimes have been committed.


10 posted on 09/06/2010 6:51:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AndyJackson
You need this technology. It is for your own good and that of the collective.

Yes, oh yes! I see that now.

And here, please take my gun away, too.

/s

11 posted on 09/06/2010 6:58:42 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: 6SJ7
The government has been using cell phone triangulation technology for almost 20 years.

Which is why I snort in derision when on a TV show they still have to get the bad guy to stay on the line for a minute. Can't they just look at the Caller ID? It makes me nuts to know that I can tell who's calling before I answer the phone but the cops have to figure out to keep the guy on the phone for a minute.

12 posted on 09/06/2010 7:00:31 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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Why in the world would they want to know where I go? I go to: the gym, Whole Foods, Tyson’s Corner mall, Tyson’s Corner Galleria, the gas station, the dry cleaners, the spa, Wegman’s, the pet food palace, the bodega with the good limes and avocados, Vitamin Shoppe, the dog groomer, the dentist, K-Mart and Target, etc. How boring is that? And why would they want to know, and why would I care if they knew where I go? There, I just posted it on the Internet. I am still not getting this. I am sure the places I go are very similar to the places millions of people go. Why should they assign someone to track my errands? Where are those monitors going to come from? My monitor will be bored stiff and screaming for mercy in less than a week. That is how I will defeat them.


13 posted on 09/06/2010 7:05:29 AM PDT by La Lydia
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From what I’ve read, it’s possible to turn your phone on remotely and use it as a listening device. It’s definitely possible if the phone is already on. And, it’s legal - a judge issued a wire tap warrant back in 2006.
http://www.zdnet.com/news/fbi-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/150467

I think you can avert this by taking out the battery, but I wouldn’t swear to it.

Sometimes it’s actually comforting to me that I can’t get a decent signal inside my house!


14 posted on 09/06/2010 7:17:44 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: La Lydia
I am still not getting this. I am sure the places I go are very similar to the places millions of people go. Why should they assign someone to track my errands? Where are those monitors going to come from?

It's for marketing. If they know your habits they can target you with specific ads.

15 posted on 09/06/2010 7:21:06 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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And, this is a threat to my freedom and happiness how?


16 posted on 09/06/2010 7:22:51 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
And, this is a threat to my freedom and happiness how?

I didn't say it was. It's merely more information that, in the usual sense, shouldn't matter. The idea that all this information can be collected and, quite possibly, used against you in the future is what has me avoiding it.

17 posted on 09/06/2010 7:27:02 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: La Lydia; raybbr; 6SJ7
"...a threat to my freedom and happiness how?"

That's the key question.   MHO is that a kneejerk anti-tech reaction gets us nowhere.

18 posted on 09/06/2010 7:30:12 AM PDT by expat_panama
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They are going to collect the kind of information I listed above and use it against me? How? Am I going to be condemned for my excessive use of dry cleaning services and forced to iron shirts in penance? I’m still not getting it.


19 posted on 09/06/2010 7:33:58 AM PDT by La Lydia
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They are going to collect the kind of information I listed above and use it against me? How? Am I going to be condemned for my excessive use of dry cleaning services and forced to iron shirts in penance? I’m still not getting it.

Okay, don't try anymore then.

20 posted on 09/06/2010 7:35:11 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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