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To: narses
Excuse me, please do not cherry pick quotes, post them, and then ping me as if you've discovered the Ark of the Covenant.
Here's an idea: try actually reading up on Jefferson. There's a host of info at monticello.org, virginia.edu, princeton.edu as well as the books Jefferson & His Time (Dumas Malone), American Sphinx (Joseph Ellis); The Real Thomas Jefferson (Andrew Allison et al)

Facts:

* Jefferson believed in God, the God of Moses
* Jefferson believed in Jesus Christ
* Jefferson attended church services
* Jefferson prayed
* Jefferson gave money to churches of different denominations
* Jefferson very much admired the Roman-Catholic Church (though himself not a Catholic)
* Jefferson was inconspicuous about his Christianity, preferring not to 'wear it on his sleeve'
* Though himself a Christian he was most tolerant of all denominations and really wasn't bothered if a person 'worshiped one God, a hundred Gods, or none'.

151 posted on 08/29/2010 7:55:12 AM PDT by jla (Have you used Rosetta Stone language method? Please Freepmail me.)
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To: jla

Here uis a thought, don’t tell me what to do or assume that you know what I know or do not. Jefferson took every side he could, he was Clintonesque. He was an adulterous sleaze who used violence to get his own way, he was a traitor to Washington and he excised from his rewritten Bible all that was miraculous. If he was acting as a Christian, he gets an epic fail.


152 posted on 08/29/2010 8:05:58 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: jla
Jefferson attended church services

Jefferson's letters tell of the circuit riding preacher regularly visiting Monticello.

It was said that he was an intimate friend of Thomas Jefferson, and as Mr. Jefferson was the leader of Republican ideas in Virginia in politics, and Mr. O'Kelly [171] in religious thought, it is not strange that they should have been warm friends, and very congenial.

It is highly probable, that what occurred at a later period, that he visited Mr. Jefferson at Monticello on his preaching tours. The story goes thus:

"On one occasion Mr. O'Kelly visited Mr. Jefferson in Washington. The great statesman, knowing of the preacher's ability, obtained the use of the hall of the House of Representatives and invited Mr. O'Kelly to preach. The invitation was, after some consideration accepted, but to the chagrin of the distinguished host, the preacher fell far below Mr. Jefferson's expectation. Believing this failure did his friend great injustice, the great political leader insisted on a second effort. Mr. O'Kelly agreed. The appointment was again made, and the people urged to give him another hearing. They did hear him again, and were abundantly repaid, for Mr. O'Kelly preached one of the great sermons of his life, and the host was the most delighted man in the audience. When he had finished Mr. Jefferson arose with tears in his eyes, and said, that while he was no preacher, in his opinion James O'Kelly was on of the greatest preachers living.

"Mr. Jefferson's friendship for Mr. O'Kelly was responsible for the charge that this eminent statesman was an infidel. To this day the facts are but little know to the public, but they are well authenticated. It is known that the charge was laid against Mr. Jefferson, but the cause and the injustice of the charge are little known. Mr. O'Kelly's leadership in [172] the session from the Methodist Episcopal Church had made for him many strong enemies, who called him an infidel because of his supposed unfaithfulness to his church. His enemies pressed this charge against him without specifying it's nature, till the impression gained credence that he was an infidel to the Christian faith.

"When Mr. Jefferson boldly showed his friendship for Mr. O'Kelly, it was construed by the enemies of the latter as sympathy for him in his work as a reformer, and at once Mr. Jefferson was charged with being an infidel. His political enemies began to proclaim the charge against him in their efforts to defeat him for the presidency, and in a short time the rumor was generally current among the people. So intense was the feeling thus engendered against him, that in some places, notably in Pennsylvania, the report was believed and it was talked among the people that if Mr. Jefferson should be elected President, he would order all Bibles to be burned throughout the land. An instance well authenticate, is reported of a Christian mother, who, influenced by this talk against him, on hearing that Mr. Jefferson had been elected President, took her Bible and hid it away, declaring that the infidel President should never burn her Bible. There is good reason to believe that this is the origin of the charge of infidelity against Thomas Jefferson, and though having no foundation, many well informed people are not sure, even to this day, that he was not indeed an enemy to the Christian faith. Of course [173] neither James O'Kelly, nor Thomas Jefferson was an infidel"

(This was given the writer by Dr. J. P. Barret, editor of the Herald of Gospel Liberty, Dayton, O.)

On one of his preaching tours Mr. O'Kelly was taken very sick near Winchester, Virginia. He and Bishop Asbury had not seen each other for some time, and it so happened that the Bishop was in the same locality at the time. On learning that Mr. O'Kelly was very sick he sent two of his brethren, Reed and Walls, to ask if Mr. O'Kelly would like for him to visit him. The reply was in the Affirmative. Here on Monday the 23d of August, 1802, we have an account of the last meeting on earth of these to great men. Mr. Asbury, in his "Journal," Vol. III, page 76, has this to say in regard to the meeting: "We met in peace, and asked of each other's welfare, talked of persons and things indifferently, prayed, and parted in peace. Not a word was said of the troubles of former times. Perhaps this is the last interview we shall have upon the earth." This meeting shewed that both of these leaders had great souls within, dough differing so much in many mattes.
From Life of James O'Kelly Chapter 13 Thomas Jefferson - by W. E. MacClenny


http://www.piney.com/RmJOKJeff.html
183 posted on 08/30/2010 12:22:17 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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