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To: muawiyah; Rockingham

The Iroquois were very much relevant until the Revolution. By 1648 they hadn’t even yet gotten started really. The height of their military power was about 1650-1666.


92 posted on 08/28/2010 6:53:43 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
Anything after 1650 is a "relative power" thing. Remember what I said, the plagues were so bad the Mohicans could no longer mount an effective military force and were taken over by the Iriquois. In fact, the Oneida adopted them and they ceased to exist as a tribe.

From that point on the Oneida had a different sort of outlook on New York and New England politics, tended to side with Americans, AND, most importantly, developed an immigration policy that allowed skilled white folks to live on Oneida lands.

This was consistent with the Brotherton policy of assimilation ~ and the Brotherton's ended up moving in with the Mohicans on Oneida and Onandaga lands.

Whites and blacks continued to pour into the British American colonies and could not be effectively challenged after that time. That didn't mean some didn't try, but they lost!

93 posted on 08/28/2010 7:12:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Claud
The various Indian confederations follow a similar tragic pattern. The Indians confer, ally, and rouse themselves to their greatest capacity for resistance, but soon find that the settlers and the military have responded with strength that is far beyond what the Indians can hope to overcome.

The inescapable lesson was that the Indians could not hope to continue with their traditional hunter gatherer way of life. They had to change and yield to a more powerful people whom the Indians feared and in great measure scorned.

In the cruel way of the world, between different peoples, land belongs not to those who claim it or who live on it but to those who have the power to seize and hold it.

103 posted on 08/29/2010 6:10:16 AM PDT by Rockingham
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