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1 posted on 08/23/2010 5:03:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Le Carre sucks and is a lib. The Spy Who Came Out of the Cold largely sucked.

The best of the bunch was Michael Caine as Harry Palmer in the Ipcress File and Funeral In Berlin.


2 posted on 08/23/2010 5:05:53 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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Next this anti-semite will be blaming “James Bond” and his creator, Ian Fleming, as being “Zionists”. He might even be a closet “Burqua Boy”, if memory serves me correctly.

Le Carre’ is also anti-American. Check out his statements for the past 10-20 years.


3 posted on 08/23/2010 5:07:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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You don't want to know what John Grisham really thinks about that awful Sherlock Holmes either.
4 posted on 08/23/2010 5:09:10 PM PDT by x
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Sounds jealous. Maybe he should see a therapist about that.


5 posted on 08/23/2010 5:09:53 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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Le Carre and the absence of a sense of humor. Coming next - doubts about Indiana Jones as an archaeologist.


6 posted on 08/23/2010 5:11:10 PM PDT by alecqss
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Many years ago I tried valiantly but just could never finish a Le Carre “thriller”. According to his reasoning Mata Hari was not a spy, but Edith Clavell was. Guess what John they both were.


7 posted on 08/23/2010 5:13:44 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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Hey John, How many people even know who George Smiley is?


9 posted on 08/23/2010 5:17:24 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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Le Carré is a stuck up, Bush-hating, anti-American POS. I have very little time for his idiotic nonsense.
12 posted on 08/23/2010 5:22:46 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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That would make sense. Lc’s books are tedious and pretty boring. Not to mention the Hero ALLWAYS dies. In the end.


15 posted on 08/23/2010 5:26:46 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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"You felt he would have gone through the same antics for any country really, if the girls had been so pretty and the Martinis so dry."

I fail to see the problem here, especially if Britain pays the tab. :)

16 posted on 08/23/2010 5:30:12 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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At the root of Bond there was something neo-fascistic and totally materialist,” said Le Carré, who once worked with the British Foreign Service. “You felt he would have gone through the same antics for any country really, if the girls had been so pretty and the Martinis so dry.”

Although he’s a work of fiction I strongly disagree....Bond enjoyed the finer things in life and women but wasn’t completely about the money...


17 posted on 08/23/2010 5:32:36 PM PDT by jakerobins
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I saw Funeral in Berlin when it came out in the 60's. It sucked.

Like others here, I struggled with one of his "esteemed novels". It sucked.

"Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" in spite of Alec Guinness playing George Smiley - Sucked.

So, David Cornwall, do you notice some kind of pattern here?

What is with you Brits who claim, through some name changing magic, to be connected to the French? You and that other socialist, anti-semetic hump Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno.

John, your just jealous that only a few die-hard leftists will remember you and your work, if only vaguely, while Fleming and Bond will still be renowned far into the future.

18 posted on 08/23/2010 5:36:04 PM PDT by muleskinner
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My knowledge is very limited. I’ve never heard of him or his spy character.


24 posted on 08/23/2010 6:04:59 PM PDT by paudio (She wanted to be known as another Jackie O. Instead, people see her another Marie Antoinette)
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“Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” is a wonderful novel if you’re interested in the Great Game as the Brits called it, the West vs. the Soviets, from the end of WWII to the 1970’s. Lots of fascinating detail.

The BBC adaptation with Alec Guinness is available on DVD, and it’s one of the best TV productions EVER. It’s a multi-part mini-series; save it for a weekend for when you’re down with the flu or something and watch it straight through.


29 posted on 08/23/2010 6:26:48 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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"The Fleming stuff was a deliberate fantasisation."

I wonder if that had anything to do with Fleming's wild success in fiction books and Hollywood films? Duh.

32 posted on 08/23/2010 6:45:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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Sour grapes, apparently his stuff wasn’t as popular as Flemming’s so he doesn’t like Bond books.


35 posted on 08/23/2010 7:40:13 PM PDT by calex59
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James Bond was thought to be based in part on Dusko Popov, although I believe in Popov's memoir he makes light of this or denies it. They do have certain things in common.

I still read Le Carre. Don't like his politics.

I just finished McEwan's The Innocents, based on a true story of espionage in Berlin in the 1950s--excellent. Good portraits of American vs. British spies. Seems very true to life and historically accurate.

44 posted on 08/24/2010 3:00:20 AM PDT by firebrand
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"Le Carré's own spy character, George Smiley"

This sounds like professional jealousy to me. Everyone has heard of Bond, James Bond. How many people have heard of George Smiley? Not many...

With all that being said, I do think that the James Bond movie series should come to an end. It's nothing like Sean Connery and Roger Moore. It made a slight comeback with Pearce Brosnan who I thought was pretty good.
46 posted on 08/24/2010 4:39:06 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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