[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Seven pages....This is from the UK...but maybe the info is useful also here in the USA.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The question often gets asked...now why is it I must have a smartphone...well this might be a reason....

And regarding TeleNav as being too American...sounds like that is worth looking at... company's website:

TeleNav GPS Navigator

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Google maps, along with the Weather Channel app, are my two favorite apps for the phone.

[Keith in Iowa]

Once you’ve used a stand-alone PND/GPSr or whatever, any app on a smart phone does not compare.

[scott7278]

That first picture is CoPilot Live 8, which is causing me to pound my head on my desk. I ran it on Windows Mobile and liked it so much I bought it again on Android.

However, it will not let me search for addresses. Everything else is perfect - all my Points of Interest show up, but I can not enter in a street address - cities will not load.

I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled, downloaded, uninstalled and reinstalled the maps (1.7 GB!!!) and downloaded the map update from yesterday. Still nothing.

After many emails back and forth to support, who seemed to know less than the product than I do, they told me to uninstall and reinstall everything “and see if that helps.”

Nice.

[ShadowAce]

[JerseyHighlander]

I’ve used HTC TyanII and the AT&T/Cingular built in Windows 6.1 SatNav feature.

Works well enough... only caveat, receiving a call and getting back to the navigation window is troublesome in traffic.

However, during the Holiday season Black Friday sales I found a TomTom for like $75 with lifetime free updates.

The cost of electronics in the UK is ridiculous due to smaller number of vendors, the standard of taking the price in dollars and keeping the same number in Pounds, i.e. $100 becomes 100 Pounds, and the massive VAT tax. For most Americans it has to be cheaper to buy a standalone product.

[antiRepublicrat]

Am I the only one who thinks the "chin" on a brick phone is one of the stupidest design ideas? All these attempts at creativity, failed. Still nobody's beat the best attempt at cell phone ergonomics:

I'm waiting for somebody to do a modern re-working of that.

[martin_fierro]

most of us can get just as lost on shanks' pony.

I'm so lost that I don't even know where that is.