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To: Pelham

Of course there are assumptions, we both have made them. You assume God is not restrained by time, don’t you, that there is no before or after for Him? You assume his knowledge is not restricted by time.

If God’s knowledge is not restricted by time, why would He not know what choices a person will make, even before He creates them? Are you saying that God does not know what the future holds for each of us, and He does not know what a man is thinking?

Why wouldn’t people still be responsible here on earth, even if God is the author of their evil actions? We have laws for this, don’t we? Just because someone chooses an evil act, that doesn’t mean that God didn’t know about it before, does it? I wasn’t arguing for anything, I was asking questions.

Maybe evil doesn’t even exist to God? Perhaps, it’s just a word we use to descibe behavior.


218 posted on 08/16/2010 11:36:31 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: stuartcr

“If God’s knowledge is not restricted by time, why would He not know what choices a person will make, even before He creates them? “

He would know. It’s inherent in being outside of the constraints of time.

“Why wouldn’t people still be responsible here on earth, even if God is the author of their evil actions?...Just because someone chooses an evil act, that doesn’t mean that God didn’t know about it before, does it?”

You conflate knowledge of evil with responsibility for committing evil. God can have knowledge of evil without being its cause. But if God is the author of someone’s evil act then the person cannot be said to have chosen evil, the responsibility would fall on its author.

“Maybe evil doesn’t even exist to God? Perhaps, it’s just a word we use to descibe behavior.”

That wouldn’t be true for the God of the bible. You’ll have to tell us if that is true for the God you believe in.


223 posted on 08/16/2010 12:30:14 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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