Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine: Are Handgun Caliber Rifles the New Home Defense Shotgun?

The Truth About Guns ^ | 10 August, 2010 | Robert Farago

[conservativeharleyguy]

Actually that is a Saiga, it's just been modified by Tromix (Lead Delivery Systems). It's not mine though, just one of his sample guns. Someday, maybe.

[Lurker]

When I saw them they were running about 400 or so new IIRC. You did darned well. I KNEW I should have bought one.

[starlifter]

I absolutely agree.

And with a shotgun:
- You just have to be close to get a disabling hit
- Chances of sending a round through the Sheetrock and hitting fluffy bunny in the next room are nil.

[Vendome]

thanks

[dblshot]

If the Bear is in the house already get out first! Who cares what he tears up as long as it aint you and yours. A friend of mine once ran a bear out of his tent with a camera, the flash bulb startled it. He said that was the first thing he could grab. picture was to close to be in focus, pity.

[Vendome]

LOL, it looked to pretty for Saiga.

Have to go back and look them.

[Oatka]

I have two, a Beretta Storm, and my favorite, a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45ACP that uses 1911 mags,

Hope Kel-Tec gets smart and does the same - mags are cheap. I understand there's a 50-round drum for the Marlins.

[JimRed]

The first, and last, sound they should hear is BOOM!

There's an old saying that you never hear the one that got you...

[Desron13]

I’m already sold on this carbine and have just been waiting for the .45 cal version to come out.

[BluH2o]

I have a Mossberg 590A1 Persuader 12ga.
Who manufactures the weapon displayed in the picture?

[umgud]

Here’s a link to their website; http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php

[FreedomPoster]

>>I thought the M3 submachine gun was dubbed “grease gun” . Not the Thompson.

You are correct.

Dad was a tank platoon commander back in the mid-1950s, and had to qualify with the M3. He loved those things.

[FreedomPoster]

Nothing wrong with storing a pistol in a proper holster ready to go.

[FreedomPoster]

>> I have whats called a “trench gun” or riot shotgun,

Does it have a bayonet lug? To my mind, it is not a trench gun if not.

See here:

http://www.olive-drab.com/od_other_firearms_shotgun_m12.php

The sentry in the first pic has a riot gun. Scroll down a little, and there’s a trench gun with a bayonet lug.

Also, I presume it’s a Winchester Model 12?

[thackney]

Does one also come short barreled?

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18” minimum, federal law

But really, if the concern is I’ll be safe with a 6” barrel pistol, but I’ll let the intruder get close enough to grab a 18” barrel: don’t get any gun.

[Vaquero]

see #12

[mcshot]

Likely a Mossberg and a potential wrist breaker with high power loads. I have the 590A1 next to my bed loaded with 3” copper plated BBs.

[wku man]

"To my way of thinking, a semi-automatic weapon is the best home defense shotgun. A good one costs the thick end of a grand. This Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine costs $330. The SUB-2000 goes for $409."

Plenty of good riot guns, semi and pump, can be found for less than the $330 you propose spending on that Hi-Point junk. Just take a trip to Cabela's and browse their consignment rack. If there's not a Cabela's within easy driving distance to your home, move.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[archy]

Gotta disagree, here — there’s no more intimidating sound, from man or nature, than the distinctive ‘racking’ of a pump-action shotgun...

I'm willing to bet you've never heard the distinctive *pop* of the igniter cartridge of an M2-A2 flamethrower about to go to work.

[Ron H.]

The key words here is “Home Defense”. Kinda hard keeping a rifle in your night stand drawer.

I prefer the Judge. But some cleanup required after shooting bad guy.

Here Comes the Judge! Taurus .45/410 Revolver

I agree. I kep mine loaded with 3 .410 00buck magnum rounds and two .45LC rounds. This is then backed up by my Mossberg 500 pistol gripped 12g shotgun loaded with 8 00buck magnum loads. I say let the perp kick in my door. He'll never have to worry about the blast being too loud for his ears.