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Nathan Bedford Forrest and Racial Reconciliation
American Catholic ^ | Friday, August 6th, 2010

Posted on 08/08/2010 3:04:04 AM PDT by GonzoII

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1 posted on 08/08/2010 3:04:09 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: nathanbedford

Ping.


2 posted on 08/08/2010 3:04:33 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
Thanks for the ping.

Forrest was indeed a fascinating individual and I think there is much more to be learned from an examination of his biography than that which is broadcast by the establishment media.

For those who are the more, I've written about Forrest and his application for conservatives on my about page which is to be arrived at simply by clicking on "Nathan Bedford." I think most of the comments at the foot of the original article have been anticipated on the about page.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 3:17:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: GonzoII

Wow... I never knew about this.


4 posted on 08/08/2010 3:54:05 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GonzoII
I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don’t propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office.

Obviously a conservative racist whose lying to the black folk as usual.
(tyical leftist response)

5 posted on 08/08/2010 4:12:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: nathanbedford
(Glad you were pinged.)

Man-o-man, have I seen you take a beating over the years for you picking your FR screen name after this man.

Personally, I'd bookmark this thread, or save the original article, to throw in some faces at a future time. And that time will come again (unfortunately).

6 posted on 08/08/2010 4:21:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: GonzoII

CSA cavalry's favorite weapon...

7 posted on 08/08/2010 5:03:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: carton253

Southern ping


8 posted on 08/08/2010 5:10:54 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: GonzoII

A man I would gladly have followed into battle.


9 posted on 08/08/2010 6:03:29 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: GonzoII
" Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict."

And the yankees will being showing up shortly to contradict this ,,,,,,

10 posted on 08/08/2010 6:16:26 AM PDT by piroque (God bless Lee and the rest of the True Americans. . ." The Confederates”)
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To: GonzoII

Not this one again. I’ve seen the organization identified as “Independent Order of Pole Bearers” and the “Jubilee of Pole Bearers”. It’s been called a fraternal organization and at civil rights organization and a para-military organization. But the only time it is ever mentioned in any documentation I’ve ever seen is in connection with this alleged Forrest speech. No other mention of any kind. The story is most likely apocryphal.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 6:34:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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And the yankees will being showing up shortly to contradict this ,,,,,,

Yo.

12 posted on 08/08/2010 6:35:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Here’s a reference to the organization in a 2001 reference book. I would assume it was a genuine paramilitary group.

Whether Forrest ever made such a speech to it is of course an entirely separate question. I’d like to see some contemporary reportage.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ymp8BOBzACYC&pg=PA328&lpg=PA328&dq=Independent+Order+of+Pole+Bearers&source=bl&ots=-EaLk6llmz&sig=XBErAM6oP5itBsQfZbaZjC6-snM&hl=en&ei=o7JeTMicJsGBlAeCwvyZCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Independent%20Order%20of%20Pole%20Bearers&f=false


13 posted on 08/08/2010 6:45:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Another reference.

http://books.google.com/books?id=m9vVAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA207&lpg=PA207&dq=Independent+Order+of+Pole+Bearers&source=bl&ots=XUnaEitD9m&sig=X2cid92ywVWNgYJei5egOdVLGag&hl=en&ei=57NeTJfEMsOblgfovoWdCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=Independent%20Order%20of%20Pole%20Bearers&f=false


14 posted on 08/08/2010 6:49:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: central_va

Nathan Bedford Forrest memorial and grave in Memphis, Tennessee

15 posted on 08/08/2010 6:50:48 AM PDT by piroque (God bless Lee and the rest of the True Americans. . ." The Confederates”)
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16 posted on 08/08/2010 7:03:28 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Non-Sequitur

When the Civil War began, Forrest offered freedom to 44 of his slaves if they would serve with him in the Confederate army. All 44 agreed. One later deserted; the other 43 served faithfully until the end of the war. Although they had many chances to leave, they chose to remain loyal to the South and to Forrest. Part of Forrest’s command included his own Escort Company (his “Special Forces”), made up of the very best soldiers available. This unit, which varied in size from 40-90 men, was the elite of the cavalry. Eight of these picked men were black soldiers and all served gallantly and bravely throughout the war. All were armed with at least 2 pistols and a rifle. Most also carried two additional pistols in saddle holsters. At war’s end, when Forrest’s cavalry surrendered in May 1865, there were 65 black troopers on the muster roll. Of the soldiers who served under him, Forrest said of the black troops: Finer Confederates never fought.[11]


17 posted on 08/08/2010 7:05:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: carton253
A man I would gladly have followed into battle.

Not me, he was libel to get you killed to the point where one of his own men tried to kill him for that very tendency.

What was Forrest famous quote about it?

"No man kills me and lives to tell the tale."

18 posted on 08/08/2010 7:11:08 AM PDT by usmcobra (NASA outreach to Muslims if I were in charge:The complete collection of "I dream of Jeannie" on DVD.)
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To: GonzoII
as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored

This sounds similar to what Glenn Beck refers to as a person's pivot point.

The pivot point occurs when a person experiences an epiphany of conscience or a life altering event that turns them.

Beck looked for and found a pivot point in Shirley Sherrod but he can't find it in Van Jones or Andy Stern.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 7:12:01 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: central_va

And what Lost Cause fantasy site did you dredge that up from?


20 posted on 08/08/2010 8:34:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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