HAPPY HIROSHIMA DAY!

My Fetid Brain ^ | August 6, 2010 | Shameless Vanity

[No Truce With Kings]

No more Hiroshimas?

Easy. No more Pearl Harbors.

[Holen1]

“I remember as a very young toddler getting packages from my dad in someplace called Aniwetok”

You might mean Eniwetok. Major Marine battle there and Kwajalein. Feb ‘44 I believe.

[Fiji Hill]

Some songs for the occasion:

• When the Atom Bomb Fell--Karl & Harty, 1945

• Atomic Power--Red Foley, 1946

• Atomic Cocktail--The Slim Gaillard Trio, 1945

• Talking Atomic Blues--Ozie Waters, 1950

• Atom and Evil--The Golden Gate Quartet, 1946

• End of War Blues--Johnny Moore's Three Blazers (featuring Charles Brown), 1945

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Wow, that drug addled brain wrote those words? Is Ozzy conservative???? That’s not a lefty position:

If that’s the only thing that keeps the peace
Then thank God for the bomb

Sounds like something I’d say..

[billakay]

I don’t believe that this is true. The Japanese surrender was unconditional.

[Captain Kirk]

No it wasn't. The Japanese insisted on the condition of keeping the emperor and, after much cabinet debate, Truman agreed. A surrender would not have occured, at least at that time, had not Truman agreed. Truman could have had the same deal earlier (and avoided the needless INTENTIONAL mass death of babies, little out ladies, and Japanese Christians) had he pursued this earlier.

[Hebrews 11:6]

My father was in the 20th Armored Division, which in August, 1945, had returned from Europe and was on a thirty-day furlough prior to shipping out to the Far East. The 20th was scheduled to be in the first wave of the invasion of Japan and was therefore expecting 100% casualties. Without Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I never would have come along four years later.

[Gaffer]

Also very near the site of some pretty serious H-bomb testing after the war.

[Gaffer]

BTW, I’ve been to Kwaj twice...there and Roi Namur also...went touring around some of the remaining bunkers there. They really got blasted.

[Gaffer]

I think you give too much single-minded emphasis to the Japanese power structure at that time in its history. The military (Army), the Navy (somewhat) were at odds with its political segment - to the point of near rebellion.

You can argue whether the insistence of keeping an emporer and accepting that condition made it unnecessary to bomb them was the key, but I contend that the national psyche of war and dominance that overly influenced the population could only be subjugated one way, and that was total defeat - the best and most expedient way at that time was the A-bomb.

[Captain Kirk]

I disagree. You are forgetting that Japan (far more than Iraq, for example) had a recent quasi-Democratic condition of free elections. The imperial elite had been thoroughly discredited even before the bomb and Japan was beaten. This is why the Japanese were sending out peace feelers! It was not necessary for us to violate the ancient rules of war by a TERRORISTIC tactic of INTENTIONAL killing thousands of babies (both in the womb and in their cribs) as well as destroy the heart of Japanese Christianity. If that Japanese had done that to our babies and little old ladies, there would have been no question that they would have been executed for war crimes.

[Captain Kirk]

I meant to say they had a tradition not condition.