Duras, I find your need to engare in snarky argumentum ad hominum somewhat offputting. However, giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming your reply to be more than it appears, I’ll attempt to reply to your post.
Your lines in quotes.
“I think that anyone that requires sourced data to determine if molesting children is harmful isn’t really looking for the “truth”. “
The request for sourced data is reasonable, except to those whom Eric Hoffer aptly dubbed “true believers”. Given that during most of human history, in most all cultures, females married earlier than men would tell any but a “true believer” something.
Should you be either a Christian or a Jew, your theologicl system should have given you a basis for a less ‘unbalanced’ if not downright simplistic/snarky reply.
“Were it a male adult molesting a male child would you ask this question?”
Desperation leads to straw dogs arguments. I said nothing of queers because I know them to be an infinitesimal part of the human race. Again, were you either from a Christian or Jewish background you would know that such people were seen as ‘abominations”.
Relative to my post, they are irrelevant, immaterial, and not germane.
“If it were a male adult and a female minor would you ask this question?”
Had you read my post with an even partly open mind, you would have discovered that I already covered this issue.
PS What was good enough for the Jews, Christians, and the people who founded America is sufficiently acceptable to me. May I suggest a bit of reading? Other than Libroid trash, that is.
Your problem may lie in your acceptance of the state usurping the role of the parent in deciding a child’s maturation. Do realize that until the rise of Libralism and the Agenda Uber Alles mentality of that set, the parents of a sexually maturing child (of either sex), not the state, determined (or profoundly influenced) when and whom their offspring married.
“For all intents and purposes, regardless of the sexes of the perpetrator and the victim, it is rape of a minor child.”
Calm your self, contemplate your inner adult, and consider the following:
1. When the state, with the best of intentions, attempts to arbitrarily set an age for sex or marriage, they have embarked upon a fool’s errand. Such detailed data is required for such decisions that only a family, aided by relatives and hopefully, assisted by coreligionists, can hope to wisely counsel a young person.
As you may have noted, history notes some remarkable females who married early and were very successful. My opinion is “Gooberment can’t raise children”
2.When goobers in gooberment agencies are given power to interfere with family decisions, including age of first intercourse, the results are not such that any but a proponent of expansive government could support.
Using Florida as an example, children removed from sexually abusive families are abused sexually more while in state custody. Nothing to support there.
“If you need scientific evidence to prove that raping a child is harmful not only are you asking the wrong question, you have serious issues.”
No, I have no “serious issues”, but that you have a need to project such on me speaks volumes about you.
The discussion is about appropriate age of consent, who grants that consent, and the role of the state in such consent.
Given your need to accuse me of “serious issues” it seems to this non-Liberal that you appear to be a Liberal, indulging in LiberalSpeak as you avoid the questions I raised to snidely imply that you think me to be a person with serious confusions regarding appropriate things sexual.
Beyond discussing this with your psychiatrist or psychologist, I can only suggest less projection and more attention to the issues I raised.
In closing, do you have any references to hard data sources that early sex is “damaging” to males? If so, how is “damage” defined, and what methodologies were used in the determination?
“I think that anyone that requires sourced data to determine if molesting children is harmful isn’t really looking for the “truth”. Were it a male adult molesting a male child would you ask this question? If it were a male adult and a female minor would you ask this question?
For all intents and purposes, regardless of the sexes of the perpetrator and the victim, it is rape of a minor child. If you need scientific evidence to prove that raping a child is harmful not only are you asking the wrong question, you have serious issues.”
Exactly.......
The double standard is hypocritical beyond belief. That’s why we have situations like this on every thread about teachers having sex with minors.
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Situation: Male teacher seduces female student = rapist, pedophile, sex offender.
Conclusion: Teacher is completely to blame. He ought to have known better, she couldn’t possibly have been complicit due to her youth and naivety.
Consequences: Tar and feather him, skin him alive and throw him in a vat of brine, emasculate him with a dull knife, and throw him in jail in general pop. and make sure all the other inmates know why he’s there. Top with burn alive in hell for eternity.
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Situation: Male Teacher seduces male student= rapist, pedophile, sex offender.
Conclusion: Teacher completely to blame (no argument there)
Consequences: Skin it alive with a dull knife, THEN tar and feather it with hotter tar and more feathers. Emasculate with rusty razor blade. Then throw into vat of hot brine and put in prison with general pop with sign over cell door listing charges. Have it thrown into the lake of fire along with Satan and the False Prophet.
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Situation: Female teacher seduces female student = pedophile & sex offender.
Conclusion: See above male teacher seduces male student
Consequences: See above male teacher seduces male student, unless both females are attractive.
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Situation: Female teacher seduces male student.
Conclusion: *Lucky* boy, *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*, gets every boy’s dream. Teacher bears some blame for actions, but boy is more than willing to comply so no harm done, because, after all, he IS a boy and everyone knows that situations like that never damage a boys psyche or future relationships like it does girl’s.
Consequences: Decide guilt or innocence based solely on looks of teacher and be generous in pardon. If she is hot, declare *not guilty* and look the other way. If she isn’t, prison time for a while, maybe. Don’t forget to vote if you would “hit it” or not.