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To: wagglebee

You posted:
“You are actually suggesting that letting childred be BEATEN, RAPED AND KILLED is preferable to the government having laws to prevent it.”

I posted no such thing.

What I did post, and at some length, was that at least in Florida, government intervention in abusive situations resulted in more abuse.

There are some things which government can’t do. Preventing evil seems to be one such thing. Preventing child abuse by government taking custody of the abused child has been tried - and those programs produced more abuse.

Please do not attack me because I bring bad news. As a matter of fact, I spent many weeks, and thousands of dollars trying to help a woman keep her child after the state filed a felony level child abuse charge against her because one of the state wild beasts nearly killed the child.

A Harvard educated plastic surgeon friend of mine contributed over $15,000 of professional time trying to point out to the goobers that the mother was incapable of causing such wounds.

That boy suffered, in addition to the physical wounds, such things as being deprived of his mother when critically ill, then forced into a foster home where he had to call the black woman running the home “Mom”.

His birth mother was white. Talk about confusing a 3.5 year old!

The sad fact is that state custodial care is filled with violent, and/or sexually predatory “clients” who then beat or rape other “clients”.

Sorry, but government has proven that it can not prevent it.

I raised this disturbing failure of government because I hoped to start a discussion as to how something productive could be found.

Got ideas?


148 posted on 08/03/2010 12:45:02 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru; metmom; BykrBayb; trisham; Abathar; manc; Responsibility2nd
You posted: “You are actually suggesting that letting childred be BEATEN, RAPED AND KILLED is preferable to the government having laws to prevent it.”

I posted no such thing.

Actually, that is EXACTLY what you posted in post #122. Here, let me refresh your memory:

Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse

The libertarian solution ALWAYS seems to be to look for an excuse to remove laws and your rationalization is among the sickest.

There are some things which government can’t do. Preventing evil seems to be one such thing. Preventing child abuse by government taking custody of the abused child has been tried - and those programs produced more abuse.

~snip~

The sad fact is that state custodial care is filled with violent, and/or sexually predatory “clients” who then beat or rape other “clients”.

Sorry, but government has proven that it can not prevent it.

So, you want to take a single extreme incident and remove all laws protecting children. Typical libertarian anarchist.

152 posted on 08/03/2010 12:53:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GladesGuru
I posted no such thing.

You sure did post any such thing. Here's your comment from post 122.Yes, some children will be beaten, seduced, raped, even killed. But, given that government intervention is worse - perhaps we must rely on family and neighbors, and church members.

166 posted on 08/03/2010 1:54:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GladesGuru
Got ideas?

Just what are your ideas, GG? You don't want laws or a government to enforce them regarding child abuse? Huh? All because you have an alleged incident that perhaps was wrongly enforced with unintended consequences? Huh? What are your ideas about child sex abuse and how children can be protected from evil? No laws, no rules, leave it up to citizens? Huh?

170 posted on 08/03/2010 2:18:17 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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