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Any opinions as to what is best value for the money? Some targets will be 30 yards and some might be 150-200 yards. Should I consider one that adds night vision to an existing scope or buy a stand alone scope? Please comment because I need help in deciding--Gen I, GenII, or is Gen III worth the money?
1 posted on 07/28/2010 8:26:34 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Neoliberalnot

http://www.nextag.com/night-vision-rifle-scope/compare-html


2 posted on 07/28/2010 8:32:52 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Neoliberalnot
I read a very informative article on this very thing a few months ago in "AR Rifleman" magazine (or something like that). It described a dedicated upper that incorporated not just an NVD (AN/PVS-14, IIRC), but also the integration of this optic with the .300 Whisper cartridge by SSK industries, along with a supressor (also made by SSK, I believe).

The gist of it was you need the hard-hitting subsonic round in addition to being able to see the critters at night, or else the whole herd will quickly take a powder after the sound of the first shot. Even so, the pigs were smart enough just to recognize the sound of bullet hitting meat and scatter when that signal was registered.

3 posted on 07/28/2010 8:33:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Gen 1 isn’t worth the money. You definitely won’t be able to get any decent capability past 50 yards with it.

For longer ranges and positive ID on your target, I’d go with a gen III minimum. You’ll spend quite a bit to do this but it’s worth it.

Contact US Night Vision and talk to Steve Gibbons. He’s our contact for this type of technology and he knows what he is talking about.


4 posted on 07/28/2010 8:34:21 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Eat more carrots.


5 posted on 07/28/2010 8:36:41 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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The best scope for the money is a used AN/PVS-5 with at least GEN II Image Intensifiers in them. The PVS-5 has a very large focal objective which collects more ambient light than smaller objectives. This permits you the highest resolution of target available. The scopes that mount to your day scope are problematic. First, the issue of alignment of two separate optics is a real ball breaker. Second, as stated the smaller focal objective collects less light, thus presents less resolution. Third, the image on the back side of the image intensifier tube is magnified by the day scope (8x, 10x) thus presenting a very grainy picture to the shooter. It would be cheaper to designate one rifle as a night shooter and dedicate the night scope to the rifle than to attempt to have one rifle do it all. BTW, rifles are a lot cheaper than quality night scopes. Just sayin. With your range requirements you could easily get by with a rifle offering 3 minutes of angle inaccuracy.


6 posted on 07/28/2010 8:38:50 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Neoliberalnot

Correction, I meant AN/PVS-2 Starlight Scope. PVS-5 is goggles and TVS-5 Crew Served Weapons night sight. Its been a while since I work these things.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 8:46:21 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Neoliberalnot
Don't do it in colorado as the liberals will put you in jail.
11 posted on 07/28/2010 8:53:56 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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13 posted on 07/28/2010 8:58:04 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Have you thought of back lighting them with low wattage lights?


16 posted on 07/28/2010 9:08:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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a great combination for your NVG scope would be a cheap visible laser ( you can buy an IR one if you can afford it), or you can use a Infrared Filtered flashlight to illuminate and mark your targets.

Also consider a suppressor. It will help contain the muzzle flash, help control muzzle flip, and not alarm those within earshot of your nocturnal activities.


18 posted on 07/28/2010 9:21:00 AM PDT by Pavegunner72
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To: Neoliberalnot
for hunting wild pigs and disposing of varmints that attack my garden under cover of night.

Are you speaking literally or euphemistically?

19 posted on 07/28/2010 9:31:19 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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http://www.texasboars.com/


38 posted on 07/28/2010 12:17:48 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Neoliberalnot
Right here you go.
41 posted on 07/28/2010 1:44:18 PM PDT by archy
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To: Titan Magroyne; mylife

*Night Vision ping*


42 posted on 07/28/2010 5:22:38 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Neoliberalnot

Bump ‘cause I need to get some of this stuff, too.


55 posted on 07/31/2010 11:57:23 AM PDT by PLMerite (The FR clock is now three minutes fast.)
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