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To: mstar
Really? Where is your documentation?

Thomas Jackson was a slave owner until the day he died. Jefferson Davis was a slave owner as well, and said in March 1861 that, "You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables him to be." Robert Lee was saying as late as January 1865, "...the relation of master and slave...(was)the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country..." Hardly the actions of men who believed that blacks were there equal in any way.

Lee, Davis, and Jackson, unlike Sherman and Lincoln, are not deified as the great emancipators, the defender of the down trodden blacks.

If you are going to condemn Lincoln and Sherman as racists, and by today's standards they were, then isn't it only fair that you should also condemn men like Davis and Jackson and Lee for their views which were as bad if not worse?

You go first.

I'm not the one doing it.

85 posted on 07/27/2010 12:53:31 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Thomas Jackson was a slave owner until the day he died. Jefferson Davis was a slave owner as well, and said in March 1861 that, "You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables him to be." Robert Lee was saying as late as January 1865, "...the relation of master and slave...(was)the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country..." Hardly the actions of men who believed that blacks were there equal in any way.

The social system of the south was like that of the English manor system. Each manor was different because, with the exception of the ruling monarchy, the manor lord's rule was absolute. What I am saying is each plantation was different because the owners' moral values were different. Many of their own free will, freed their slaves, giving them, or allowing them to purchase land, along with the means to start their own lives. Otherwise just because one owned a slave did not mean he thought the black person was a lower form of life. The remarks you have quoted "as racist" could be referring a former slaves' limitations due to the system of that time, not his skin color.

I'm not the one doing it.

and I don't have a problem with it. I use the timeless commands of the Lord as my guideline. Those same Words were available to all during this particular time period.
89 posted on 07/27/2010 1:24:28 PM PDT by mstar
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