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To: ConservativeMind
You really don’t read other people’s words, do you? I said that social shaming is what should be used, not laws. I’ve never once said it’s “right” to beat one’s animal, but it should be their “right”. I’m not “for” beating animals, but when it comes to “animal rights” existing, they shouldn’t. Get real.

Well, it doesn't seem that 'social shaming' would work on you, your attitude is that an animal is the same as any other property-it isn't.

And no one said animals have rights, so save the 'straw man' nonsense.

Man is the steward over the animals and has a moral obligation to be a good steward over them.

All of you guys, who come on these animal abuse threads, attack those who believe in being humane to animals as PETA supporters.

We aren't.

But one can care about animals without thinking they are equal to humans.

Try to learn to distinguish concepts.

116 posted on 07/27/2010 2:14:30 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

What you believe is “humane” is relative. Although I believe we are stewards of animals, the US had always viewed animals as “property” and, in fact, they are still that, but now with special privileges other property cannot have.

It doesn’t really matter if you think social shaming would would on me or others, it is the only way animal issues should be handled. If not that way, then laws against penning your pets, eating meat, and the like will logically follow using the same argument you have given us. It’s simply another court case or Administration more to put it over to the liberal side from that point, on.

How can you justify slaughtering one’s animals for meat as “humane”? How can you justify tying up an animal or having it on a leash as “humane”? You can’t. You can only say that, “Well, we’ve always eaten meat so it should continue to be okay,” or, “Well, if the animal runs around, it might get hurt.” “So what?” they will say in return. It’s still not what you would do to a human, so it’s not “humane.”

Unless you are for doing that to humans, and then you and your argument are consistent.

Enjoy.


117 posted on 07/27/2010 2:26:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pin up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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