[TigersEye]

I think a lot who are not trolls engage in defeatist "woe is we" talk too. Or else there are a heck of a lot of trolls.

Glad to see that B-Chan is gone. Besides being a monarchist who openly said he wouldn't lift a finger to defend the U.S. he had other issues as well.

[little jeremiah]

Whether such defeatists are actual trolls trying to instill hopelessness, or just regular defeatists cowards - the result is the same, so they are equally at fault.

If someone is a defeatist, they should shut the * up and listen! And maybe gain some heart and spirit!