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Who Is John Dewey????
Improve-Education.org ^ | Feb., 2008 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 07/20/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

Our Education Establishment tends to describe John Dewey as The Greatest Human Who Ever Lived. I've taken to calling him America's Favorite Quack. Truth is, when the Far-Left finds somebody saying what they want said, they will praise that somebody to the skies. Thus, the apotheosis of John Dewey. An essay called "Phooey on John Dewey" provides some perspective:=======

"First off, let it be stated that John Dewey was a phenomenally brainy and productive guy. During a long life, he wrote more articles and books than you could read in a year. Indeed, he wrote so much on so many topics that he surely said some things that you would agree with, no matter what your opinions are. In some weird way, he made everyone a Deweyite. For example, in his book “The School and Society” he perfectly states my own philosophy on education: “What the best and wisest parent wants for his own child, that must the community want for all of its children.” Exactly. The problem is that the onslaught of Dewey’s words has tended to work against that goal. His efforts, in their totality, have tended to create precisely the sort of education that the best and wisest parent wouldn’t wish on a tuna. So the question is: how was this one very smart man able to cause so much damage? What, really, were the poisons in his philosophy, and in his soul? Don’t worry I’ll try to analyze all of Dewey’s writing; there’s a hopeless quest. I’m nominating one very short book--“My Pedagogic Creed”--as our single best portal into Dewey’s mind and into the stunted world of 20th century American education. Hang on. This is a good ride. [MORE BELOW]

(Excerpt) Read more at improve-education.org ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: dumbingdown; learning; publicschools; teaching
The year: 1897. Dewey’s age: 38. “My Pedagogic Creed” is a fascinating and original work. It's almost art, in the exotic sense that Wittgenstein’s “Tractatus” is art. They’re both breezily dogmatic, stating a thousand decisive Truths, perhaps a few of which are even true. Here's the key point. Wouldn’t we like Dewey to say he has concluded or demonstrated or observed or discovered something? He does not. Here’s what he says 74 times in My Creed: "I believe...I believe...I believe...” You want education as fevered religious vision, read Dewey. Here’s four of these staccato beliefs:

“I believe that the social life of the child is the basis of concentration, or correlation, in all his training or growth. The social life gives the unconscious unity and the background of all his efforts and of all his attainments.

I believe that the subject-matter of the school curriculum should mark a gradual differentiation out of the primitive unconscious unity of social life.

I believe that we violate the child's nature and render difficult the best ethical results, by introducing the child too abruptly to a number of special studies, of reading, writing, geography, etc., out of relation to this social life.

I believe, therefore, that the true center of correlation on the school subjects is not science, nor literature, nor history, nor geography, but the child's own social activities.”

Here’s what you need to watch with Dewey. He says education but he means indoctrination. He believes the reason kids go to school is to learn to be part of a group. Dewey had absorbed his collectivism from Marx, Hegel and other big thinkers of the 1800s and had, apparently, never doubted it. But how will we reach that brave new world? That is the tactical problem which Dewey is trying to solve in “My Pedagogic Creed.”

You see the offhand way he tosses aside the traditional school subjects. This contempt for knowledge, for facts, for truths--which Dewey states so openly---has stained the entire twentieth century. Please note the irony. He is himself hugely educated. But he has little interest in letting your kids join him. Instead, he is obsessed with their “social activities.”

Listening to John Dewey, you’d think that children have no families, homes, parents, siblings, friends, relatives, neighbors, communities, sports, religions, hobbies, no life outside the school. If they aren’t socialized at his school his way, they’ll be lost souls. Such arrogance. So Dewey inverts the main reason for the school’s existence, which is to provide the intellectual discipline and direction that might not be provided by all those other forces. Dewey wants to take schools out of the education business, as traditionally understood, and put them in the conditioning (or parenting) business...."

THAT'S ABOUT 1/3 OF ESSAY. LINK GOES TO REST

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ALSO, THERE'S A GRAPHIC VIDEO ON YOUTUBE THAT MAKES SOME OF THE SAME POINTS. ALMOST 8600 PEOPLE HAVE VIEWED VIDEO. PRESUMABLY MOST ARE IN ED SCHOOL. SO THAT'S A VICTORY OF SORTS.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwZTkitm3-I

1 posted on 07/20/2010 12:24:29 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

He was also a founding member of the Fabian Society.


2 posted on 07/20/2010 12:29:22 PM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Durus

Yes he was...he was definitely a creep...he gets credit for the Dewey Decimal System, though.


3 posted on 07/20/2010 12:46:40 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

READING and WRITING are such “special” studies for the child, outside of all relation to “social life”

That is a basic encapsulation of the monstrosity known as “progressive” education which has wrecked our urban schools over many years.

True confessions: I do have sympathy for some “progressive” tenets of education which emphasize that the best learning is often interactive, engaged, more than “rote” memorization etc. BUT, the ludicrous aspects of such progressive education begin with ideas that there is something backward and unnecessary about the “3 Rs” etc.

No serious education is going to happen until students achieve strong levels of proficiency in reading, writing, and arithmetic.... those basic subjects in which tens or hundreds of millions of Americans are now badly deficient thanks to Dewey and his fellow “progressive” educators.


4 posted on 07/20/2010 1:15:15 PM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: FrdmLvr
...he gets credit for the Dewey Decimal System, though.

Safe to say, Melvil Dewey probably wouldn't object to that.

5 posted on 07/20/2010 1:34:22 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: FrdmLvr

That’s the only thing I remembered learning about him - the dewey decimal system. I guess there is much to learn about everyone, but who has the time?


6 posted on 07/20/2010 2:05:59 PM PDT by jackspyder
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To: thulldud

Thanks for clearing up that factoid....I always wondered....


7 posted on 07/20/2010 2:17:16 PM PDT by Seeking the truth (0cents.com -[ Are you sick of Obama - visit this site!)
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To: thulldud
Safe to say, Melvil Dewey probably wouldn't object to that.

Safe to say, Melvil Dewey would object to that. No?

8 posted on 07/20/2010 2:25:02 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fearless person cannot be controlled.)
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To: thulldud

Gosh! I read that he made a pretty good NY Governor back in the forties...


9 posted on 07/20/2010 2:27:05 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
He had an idea that learning and the learned oppressed ordinary uneducated people.

That might have been understandable in the Germany of his day, but not in the US then or now.

It's a bit strange that someone who spent his whole life in academia would romanticize the uneducated, "intuitive" child, and even stranger that someone who distrusted intellect and intellectualism would throw in with the Progressive movement which believed in control of society by trained specialists.

There's a contradiction at the heart of Dewey's theories that encourages critics to find something conspiratorial there -- as though the masses were to be purposely kept ignorant so that they could be more effectively governed by elites.

I think, though, it has more to do with the man's sentimentalism. He couldn't resist idealising the pure, whole, uneducated child, and also couldn't resist romanticizing social engineering. So he mashed the two together in a way that can't help look -- and perhaps is -- manipulative and Machiavellian.

Perhaps he found it hard to resist holding two contradictory ideas at the same time. Anyway it's hard to think that he really has much to say to us now.

10 posted on 07/20/2010 3:04:11 PM PDT by x
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Safe to say, Melvil Dewey would object to that. No?

Last time I checked, Melvil Dewey was still dead.

11 posted on 07/21/2010 5:46:33 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: thulldud
Last time I checked, Melvil Dewey was still dead.

Well, yeah...there is that. Got yer point.

12 posted on 07/21/2010 6:23:23 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A fearless person cannot be controlled.)
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