Posted on 07/16/2010 5:18:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Demonic Possession.
I do not say this in jest.
Why else would anyone spend so much of their few minutes on this life just beating dead horses?
They are unable to let go and move on from the hold over them.
An unnatural disposition of rage and hate and animosity.
Perhaps it's your general ignorance of all things technical coming through, but maybe this well-written technical report on the iPhone 4 antenna problem will sink in a bit.
Here's a summary, if the words and graphs are too difficult for you to understand:
Touching a bare antenna is bad. The loss of signal with the iPhone 4 is a lot worse than other phones. When you make it so you cannot touch the bare antenna, then it's about as bad as all other phones.
Sorry, the signal loss from holding an iPhone 4 is MUCH WORSE than any other unit, from independent testing. I know that crushes your spirit, because that means Steve Jobs' promise of unicorns and rainbows turned out to be lizards and thunderstorms, but it's OK - a bumper will solve your problem.
There is no hate or rage here, just a cold, critical, unblinking look at fanbois and fangurls trying to twist reality and actually LIE (yes, you're lying with your actions) about other phones. Apple proved they were rookies in this field, and they are trying to spin. Only Kool-Aid drinkers buy the spin.
Have a big glass of it, Rachel, Steve's buying all you can chug!
PS: if you want to talk hate, look at the invectives and names you're spewing. You're a font of anger and hatred that makes Jesus cry!
I do not say this in jest.
Now how can I be demonically possessed, Rachel, when you've called me Satan? I guess I should be able to possess others, but possessed myself, since you've called me Satan? This cannot be...
Why else would anyone spend so much of their few minutes on this life just beating dead horses?
Why do you continue to lie about technology? You know the crap you and Apple are spewing hurts the technology industry as a whole, of which I am a part. Your blatant lies and twisting of the truth, coupled with your obvious ignorance of basic scientific and physical principles and your overly aggrandized ego makes you a danger to any person looking for honest data.
Your lies are the reason, Rachel. I post facts and independent measurements. You post PR-flak cut-and-pasted from Apple's marketing drones. Big difference, there...
They are unable to let go and move on from the hold over them.
You're the one that's stalking me, my dear Rachel!
An unnatural disposition of rage and hate and animosity.
Every time you call me a name, you know you make baby Jesus cry...
“Demonic Possession.”
Rachel, you are whacked.
“Except that is not that way and you know it. All of us have told you that the phone works ... not one of us has said we have to cover it.”
Well I’m about to find out firsthand - in 7-10 business days when my phone arrives. The iPhone 4 is such a bust around here no one has it in stock locally and there’s a wait.
LOL! Let the haters hate, the fact is that almost all who buy Apple gear love it and with good reason. Watch that stock, it’s still at a low P/E for a top tech company.
Wow they have that expensive testing facility but they missed such an obvious error as leaving a bare antenna to interact with the user’s hand.
Quite a shame really. You’d think with all that money spent they would have caught this. Unless Jobs wanted form over function and thought a couple extra dropped calls wasn’t a bit deal.
I’m not a fan of CR either they do miss a lot of things. Like Toyota’s that fail to stop :-)
But when they do catch an issue they are typically right. I bet CR would have gave the iPhone 4 a thumbs up if they didn’t know about this issue. But since they heard about it they were sure to test for it and they confirmed it. This doesn’t mean the test was bad or their results wrong. Just that CR still sucks because they don’t find issues on their own.
Get an iTouch and a real cell phone then. That would give you what you want/need. Or get an android or windows mobile that will allow you setup wifi on the device as a wifi hotspot connecting your other devices to the 3g network. So you can still get your iTouch 3g service via your android or windows mobile.
Actually I find it to be very depended on the device. I think ATT is getting a bad rap because of popular phones that suck as phones...like the iPhone.
I have ATT Service and get a new phone about every 6 months (when you include my wife's phone). We definitely have had a couple lemons that dropped calls like crazy. But the phone I have now (Tilt2) was so good my wife upgraded to a tilt2 as well. I NEVER drop a single call. Only time I dropped calls was when I was talking to my wife on her older phone...that's what led us to get her a tilt2.
So ATT doesn't drop calls (in my experience) the crappy phones do.
Maybe you missed the press conference. Steve Jobs already addressed this. The phone is flawed, Apple isn't perfect, the phone isn't perfect. The interim fix is to give out rubberbands to keep hands from touching it.
The real fix hasn't been announced (meaning an iPhone 4.1 release). Until they learn to bend the rules of physics they will have to find a way to keep the hands from touching the antenna.
Steve Jobs is agreeing with me on this, so really why are you ignoring it?
Just like Apple has their zealots and bots that think they can do no wrong and defend them at every turn.
I really don't know why the apple zealots continue to defend the iPhone 4 screwed up antenna design. Steve Jobs has finally admitted that it's screwed up and not perfect. I could understand defending them when they were saying people were holding it wrong and when they said it's no worse/different than any other cell phone.
So if you wern't informed in basic physics of antenna's you may have bought those first two answers. But those who know anything about antennas knew it was a load of BS. And sure enough when Steve Jobs came out and said they can't change the laws of physics and that the phone isn't perfect and has issues...here's a free rubberband to help avoid the flawed antenna design. Well at that point it's game over for defending the design. It's time to move on to defending their reputation and say...Hey Apple fixed it as soon as they could once they confirmed what was really happening.
Defending the shoddy design is just silly at this point. I can see wanting to downplay it if you wanted to keep your iPHone 4 and believe there isn't an issue. Personally you should return it because in September there appears to be a real fix for this and you'll be stuck with the beta version.
It’s amazing someone has such an unhealthy relationship with a company/product that if someone points out their flaws that person must be possessed by a demon! Wow. I’m starting to think she actually doens’t like Apple and is making all the apple zealots look worse than they already do on purpose.
No one can be that stupid or to believe you are possessed by demons by just agreeing with Steve Jobs that their antenna is screwed up.
To be clear...I think Rachel is faking and is really is anti-apple. No apple zealot could be that stupid and know how to use the Internet.
I think you have a good point. The unnatural disposition of rage and hate that some people on this thread exhibit is extremely obsessive. It is indeed unreasonable.
I watched the press conference.
Yes, it drops less than one more call than the 3GS which drops 3 per 100. AND, as we know, the previous iPhones were hugely successful.
One more dropped call.
I have had my phone for weeks, I have no case. I have had no dropped calls. When asking others with the same phone, they say the same thing.
Why does it distress you so that the phone works? What has been your experience with the iPhone 4? Lots of dropped calls?
And when other phone makers have problems, do you become this worked up about it?
So the iPhone 4 drops 33% more phone calls than the iPhone 3GS. Yes, that is a magical antenna!
Could you please point me to a post I made that was filled with rage and hate? I see lots of anger and invectives hurled from RachelFaith (an “interesting” name choice given her decidedly aggressive posting style), but I do believe if you read my posts with an objective eye you’ll find them rational and well reasoned, without hate or rage.
I thought stripes1776 was talking about RachelFaith being filled with rage and hate. It’s pretty clear she is the one calling people the devil and that they are possessed by demons.
I have been using Microsoft operating systems for 25 years. I started with DOS at a command prompt back in the 1980s, and I have worked on every version of their operating systems since then.
But I bought my first Mac just a few weeks ago. This is the best experience with a computer I have every had. It has a beautiful graphical interface that is very easy to use. It comes with all of the general programs I need to accomplish basic tasks. There are also hundreds of programs on Apple’s website that can be downloaded for free. There are also productivity suites available for purchase at competitive prices.
I am also very impressed by the customer service I received at the Apple stores. Before buying my Mac, I made several visits over the course of 4 weeks. The sales people helped me to try out several systems until I was able to decide on a model the best served my needs. I found everyone to be very helpful and knowledgeable.
My experience with the hardware, software, and sales people and technical support has been more positive than any computer company I have every dealt with. I understand now why Apple has such positive reviews by its customers. And I also now know why Apples gets so many repeat customers for their entire line of products. I couldn’t be happier with my new and first Mac.
If, out of 100 phone calls I end up dropping not 3 calls but less than one more, it certainly is not going to bother me. And, as Jobs pointed out, dropped calls are happening on all smartphones.
I am not a geek, but a 60 year old career woman who does not want to “hack” or “root” my Droid! I have 20 years of wildly successful experience with Apple’s products and I have many of them ... and will buy many more. I did not grow up in a world of computers ... but while I was printing out documents with great fonts and formating, or playing on CU-SeeMe when it first came out, my PC friends were trying to figure out what kind of adapters they needed or how to install a custom font. Apple, for me, just worked ... it was, and is, fun.
Apple’s target audience is not hackers. There was an exchange in the Wall Street Journal a few weeks ago where some “kid” was complaining to Jobs about Apple’s walled garden and the lack of pornography on iTunes. Steve told him to buy an Android and I agree. In fact, I have noticed the Droid X appears to have great appeal to adolescent males.
It would be nice if you would understand that people [like myself] have made intelligent decisions about what product I want to buy. I love my Apple products, the OS is great, the industrial design is great [important to me as a graduate of one of the top art & design schools in the USA].
Your nagging and hectoring and complaining about Apple only makes seem rude. I honestly think that what you like about PCs, is something that would not be important to me at all.
I related my history with Apple on the post after yours, on #119.
I feel in love with the concept of computing and lusted for one for some time before deciding on Apple 20 years ago. I recommend Apple to anyone who asks.
At work I have a Lenovo currently with several Lenovo monitors. After about 3 months one monitor gave out and had to be replaced. My office PC computer has had viruses 3 times, the last of which blasted out years of historical data. In fact, it has a virus now which is not bad enough for me to call IT about, but is annoying. I’ve always hated the gibberish that PCs spew out while booting up ... still do.
On all of my Macs, there was only a track pad that became faulty after owning ir for many years. Apple sent me a box to put the laptop in, I mailed it to them and they over-nighted it back to me. i called to figure out a detail on setting up my Airport Extreme and it was a native English speaking in Canada. Every one of my Macs still works!
I cannot say enough good things about the company. It is no wonder they score so high on customer satisfaction.
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