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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Census form is short this year. You fellas need to just answer the basic questions (especially for geneological research in the future) and let these people do their jobs. Every time you make it hard, you just cause the government to spend more money with more visits, phone calls, etc. as they check with your neighbors and anyone else they can find to get the information. The money is coming out of YOUR pocket. Some of this overreaction is beyond the pale.

Bump that. I can confirm every word, as census has been essential to me in family history research. People are making fools of themselves and a non-issue in resisting answering the very basic questions which will be sealed for 72 years. Get a grip, folks.

11 posted on 07/15/2010 8:49:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (with love, from me, to you)
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To: La Enchiladita

Heh...yeah, works for me, and I have a grip! Maybe you need one...geez...


12 posted on 07/15/2010 8:54:03 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: La Enchiladita
People are making fools of themselves and a non-issue in resisting answering the very basic questions which will be sealed for 72 years. Get a grip, folks.

Yeah, it's not like the Japanese in WWII were rounded up based on the census info collected only a year or two earlier, or anything...

14 posted on 07/15/2010 9:04:01 PM PDT by ikka
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To: La Enchiladita; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Bump that. I can confirm every word, as census has been essential to me in family history research. People are making fools of themselves and a non-issue in resisting answering the very basic questions which will be sealed for 72 years.

I am one of those who only answered question #1 (how many live at this address as of April 1) and #9 -- race = American. All other questions I answered as N/A. I have since received 2 notices on July 12 & 13, on my door, from a Census worker named Amber A. I am personally looking forward to a face-face visit because she (or he) will get a can of whoop ass opened up on them. I will ask for 3 forms of photo ID, social security number, birth certificate, in fact where is 0b0z0's birth certificate, why did he list his race as black when he is half black & half white? Then we will commence with me reading the Declaration of Independence and then move on to the Constitution & Amendments, and then quotes from our Founding Fathers.

Which brings me to your comment listed above in italics.....the Census form states emphatically that all information & answers are confidential. If that is the case, then how is it that you are able to access Census information for family history research? The information is supposed to be confidential & is not to be given out. You said it is sealed for 72 years and then released? Where is the purpose listed in the Constitution that the information is available for family research? Another bone of contention is that the Census is supposedly to allocate money based on race or gender? Again, where is that listed or found in the Constitution? I did not see that listed at all in Article I, Section 2.

Causing the government to spend more money with more visits? The government under 0b0z0 has rung up record deficits of $2.1 Trillion in the last 18 months. I doubt the Census portion amounts to a hundredth of a decimal point of the spending juggernut. In any case, there is rampant corruption & double dipping already involved by having Census workers submit for full days of reimbursement when they are only working 3-4 hours in some cases.

I don't have a problem with the Census at all, as laid out in the Constitution. But I will not answer any intrusive or invasive question or race related questions.

22 posted on 07/15/2010 9:54:14 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: La Enchiladita

My ancestors didn’t live here. my grandfather walked across a bridge from Canada. Grandmother was already here with kid in tow??? I rely on cemetery headstones and church records from ireland and germany in order to recreate my ancestry. no morman’s praying for me! therefore the extra ? are not needed from my point of view. Currently I’m an undocumented worker.


24 posted on 07/15/2010 10:57:02 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; La Enchiladita
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin: The Census form is short this year. You fellas need to just answer the basic questions (especially for geneological research in the future) and let these people do their jobs. Every time you make it hard, you just cause the government to spend more money with more visits, phone calls, etc. as they check with your neighbors and anyone else they can find to get the information. The money is coming out of YOUR pocket. Some of this overreaction is beyond the pale.

La Enchiladita: Bump that. I can confirm every word, as census has been essential to me in family history research. People are making fools of themselves and a non-issue in resisting answering the very basic questions which will be sealed for 72 years. Get a grip, folks.

Neither one of you know what you're talking about. Census 2010 is a gross violation of census law and the civil rights of hundeds of millions of people.

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
-Samuel Adams

Learn: Census 2010 and the Law.

25 posted on 07/15/2010 11:01:54 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Wrong. Census data can be accessed by other Federal Government agencies such as oh - the FBI -anytime they want.
28 posted on 07/16/2010 5:49:14 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Bump that. I can confirm every word, as census has been essential to me in family history research. People are making fools of themselves and a non-issue in resisting answering the very basic questions which will be sealed for 72 years. Get a grip, folks.

Census data is also big business. I don't recall giving the gov't permission to sell mine.

29 posted on 07/16/2010 5:53:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: La Enchiladita
And FWIW....

Opinion: The Myth of Census Data Confidentiality

30 posted on 07/16/2010 5:55:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: La Enchiladita

Is that information so precious that its worth using police powers to levy a $5000 fine for non participation? If so, then it must be valuable - pay me for it.


33 posted on 07/16/2010 6:22:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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