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Why liberals should love the Second Amendment
DailyKOS ^ | July 4, 2010 | Kaili Joy Gray aka Angry Mouse

Posted on 07/10/2010 8:57:45 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Why liberals should love the Second Amendment

Sun Jul 04, 2010 at 10:00:03 AM PDT

Liberals love the Constitution.

Ask anyone on the street. They'll tell you the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a liberal organization. During the dark days of the Bush Administration, membership doubled because so many Americans feared increasing restrictions on their civil liberties. If you were to ask liberals to list their top five complaints about the Bush Administration, and they would invariably say the words "shredding" and "Constitution" in the same sentence. They might also add "Fourth Amendment" and "due process."  It's possible they'll talk about "free speech zones" and "habeus corpus."

There's a good chance they will mention, probably in combination with several FCC-prohibited adjectives, former Attorney Generals John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales.

And while liberals certainly do not argue for lawlessness, and will acknowledge the necessity of certain restrictions, it is generally understood that liberals fight to broadly interpret and expand our rights and to question the necessity and wisdom of any restrictions of them.  

Liberals can quote legal precedent, news reports, and exhaustive studies. They can talk about the intentions of the Founders. They can argue at length against the tyranny of the government. And they will, almost without exception, conclude the necessity of respecting, and not restricting, civil liberties.

Except for one: the right to keep and bear arms.

When it comes to discussing the Second Amendment, liberals check rational thought at the door. They dismiss approximately 40% of American households that own one or more guns, and those who fight to protect the Second Amendment, as "gun nuts." They argue for greater restrictions. And they pursue these policies at the risk of alienating voters who might otherwise .....

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TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2amendment; banglist; moonbats
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To: Darkwolf377

If they misuse them, they will be caught and tried, gun or no gun. Whether they are Che lovers is not my concern.....defending the 2A is.

Seems to me that some people like you would love to put a question on Form 4473: “Are you or have you ever been a lover of Che”?


21 posted on 07/11/2010 4:46:12 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Darkwolf377

“...libs being “pro-gun” so they could get their hands on guns for revolution when they wanted...”

So? They’ll be out-numbered, out-smarted, out-classed, *and* out-gunned.


22 posted on 07/11/2010 4:49:20 AM PDT by PLMerite (The FR clock is now three minutes fast.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Liberals can quote legal precedent,

BUT, only the ones they agree with.

news reports,

Paging dan raTHer, Paging dan raTHer. Paging dan raTHer.

and exhaustive studies.

Like all the gore bull warming studies?????

23 posted on 07/11/2010 4:52:46 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
If they misuse them, they will be caught and tried, gun or no gun.

I sure hope so. And your point is...?

Whether they are Che lovers is not my concern.....defending the 2A is.

Good for you. I'm merely addressing the motivation of LIBERALS who in this case are expressing support of gun rights. As long as they support that, it's fine as far as that goes--but I guess you are not concerned with Obama, who said he was for change. Heck, I was for change, too. Everyone was for change. If you go through life simply looking at what people want you to believe is the bottom line, I have no use for you.

My point was a larger one, beyond the article. If you want to be blinkered and only follow the one point this writer is addressing, you go right ahead. I'm concerned with the larger liberal hatred of gun rights. If you're not aware of that, you'll buy anything.

Seems to me that some people like you would love to put a question on Form 4473: “Are you or have you ever been a lover of Che”?

Seems to me you're a liar.

24 posted on 07/11/2010 5:09:19 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: PLMerite
So? They’ll be out-numbered, out-smarted, out-classed, *and* out-gunned.

You're right, why worry about anything, we'll just win in the end.

(Looking at our liberal president, our liberal House, our liberal senate...)

Yeah, we outnumber 'em, uh huh...it'll be a cakewalk, liberals don't even like guns (thinking of all the gun crimes done in the city, all the libs who profess gun control and yet own guns).

25 posted on 07/11/2010 5:11:23 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: Darkwolf377
I'm concerned with the larger liberal hatred of gun rights.

These particular liberals seem to believe that the 2A i a progressive idea. That is a good thing.

The liberal cause is NOT a monolith as you might believe.....and this article is proof positive of that.
26 posted on 07/11/2010 10:59:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Leftist groups like the ACLU want to protect the rights of criminals only. If the rights of ordinary citizens were being protected, protecting the rights of criminals would help to prevent a “slippery slope” where the government infringed upon the rights of increasingly-less-criminal people. On the other hand, when the rights of law-abiding citizens are not being respected, protecting the rights of criminals more than the rights of the law-abiding encourages police to respect the rights of criminals more than the law-abiding. A dangerous situation, and IMHO hardly accidental.


27 posted on 07/11/2010 7:40:40 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Neil E. Wright

They should love capitalism, they should love freedom, they should love invidial thought, as all these things stand to benefit them. Why they don’t, why they’d rather take the complicated road in life instead of going the simple way to the very thing they demand is a question that has yet to be answered.


28 posted on 07/11/2010 8:35:18 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Neil E. Wright
Agreed. I almost dropped my teeth when I read it (and I will note that I found the link to it NOT on FR, but at "Google News" in their "Spotlight" section).

It's good to see that "some" liberals, even if a tiny minority, GET IT about the second amendment.

29 posted on 07/30/2010 5:33:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Darkwolf377
"I guess I don't read this as you do."

Then you're mis-reading it. By the comparison to free speech for ANY speech, the author is making the analogous point for arms ownership.

30 posted on 07/30/2010 5:33:39 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Then you're mis-reading it.

No, I'm not. I'm just using my brain to think about what is written and why it is written that way, and going to the underlying message behind the writer's "unusual" position.

You're filling in between the lines what you really WANT to be there. That's your right. I think for myself, and wishful thinking has nothing to do with that for me.

31 posted on 07/30/2010 5:47:34 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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