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1 posted on 07/03/2010 10:53:09 AM PDT by Duke C.
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To: Duke C.

I have a daughter who is almost 9 who has had some early onset of puberty. She has a twin who doesn’t show the same signs.


2 posted on 07/03/2010 10:57:20 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Duke C.

I should say that we have had her checked out by the doctor because they were concerned she might have a disease that ages her quicker. Sometimes having a twin is a great asset because you can do direct comparisons with someone who is the exact same age and lives in the same environment.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 10:59:41 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Duke C.

It’s that aphrodisiac the Muslims said the Jew put in chewing gum.


4 posted on 07/03/2010 11:00:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Duke C.

We really need to be asking some questions about the way we’re feeding and caring for our kids, as this becomes more common. It’s not just an emotional issue or a matter of inconvenience; early onset of puberty is a predictor of reproductive cancer in later life.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 11:02:32 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: Duke C.

Worried with a 5 year old girl. This should have more research dollars than the BS we fund . . . gay hook ups in Soviet Republics and that kind of crap.


6 posted on 07/03/2010 11:03:08 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday, but now will have to do.)
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To: Duke C.

I would imagine that the pharmaceuticals (hormones) that are ending up in our groundwater and surface water is a contributor. All those years of septage with traces of birth control pills might have an effect.


8 posted on 07/03/2010 11:16:55 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Duke C.

Everybody should take a deep breath and relax. Biology is no dummy, and so does what is best for reproduction and species survival. At the same time, this means that it is *somewhat* responsive to changes in the environment. Were talking millions of years of evolution, here.

So to start with, what could be causing children to experience puberty earlier? One of the big things is “good nutrition”. They have what it takes to be healthy. So if you want to delay onset of puberty, what do you want to do, starve your children?

Physical stress, and the lack of physical stress, can also affect the onset of puberty. So if you want to work your children to exhaustion, the run them five miles every day, don’t be surprised if they don’t experience puberty until they are 17, even if their bodies are buff.

Parents, too, can affect their children. If you wait until you are 40 before having children, I would not be surprised if they mature faster than normal, because for much of human history, 40 was rare old age. So the kids bodies would “know” that the kid had better learn to fend for him or herself quickly, as their parents will be dying soon.

Conversely, parents with faster metabolisms might find it perfectly normal to have kids at 16, grandkids at 34, great grandkids at 50, shortly before they die. They naturally burn their candle at both ends and have shorter lifespans. So the earlier they *can* have kids, the better.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 11:18:49 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Duke C.

Nowadays you see more and more young girls, 12 years or so, and lately even younger, with developed breasts and defined figures; and also boys with highly defined musculature, etc.
Some years ago, when this stuff was just beginning to happen, I was told by a physician that in both cases; both girls and boys, this is an indication that as infants they were fed a certain brand of formula instead of breast milk. He did not specify WHICH brand of formula, and I did not have the presence of mind, or the chutzpah, to ask him.


15 posted on 07/03/2010 11:26:31 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Duke C.

Anyone worried about their kids can take some steps to prevent this and other symptoms of environmental neurotoxins:

Don’t buy cheap chicken and beef. Organic grassfed beef and organic free range outdoors chickens. Spend more and get actual FOOD grade meat. Go see where they are raised and you’ll get a clue.

Don’t cook or serve food in plastic. Don’t store food in plastic. Don’t buy much packaged food at all, and if you do buy packaged food, make sure it’s dry items without fat. Try and avoid cans that have BPA in their linings. Most have it.

Learn about vitamins and nutrients that protect against toxins and inflammation. You can do better by your kids.


18 posted on 07/03/2010 11:28:10 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Duke C.

Sorry for any child who must endure early onset of puberty, three things come to mind:

1. Lack of physical exercise
2. Dietary habits
3. Overwhelming amount of products/chemicals high in estrogen, namely soy based products

Historically a lower age of puberty coincided with prosperity, due to the lack of conflict or immediate threat to life, enough to eat and less physical labor. In the last 30 maybe 40 or so years many have attributed obesity, early onset of puberty and effeminate attributes to a good life; ignoring contributing factors, empirical data, all the while avoiding societal responsibility.

Soy is making kids ‘gay’: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327
The trouble with soy – part 2: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53425
The trouble with soy – part 3: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53507
The trouble with soy – part 4: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53596
The trouble with soy – part 5: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53675
The trouble with soy – part 6: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=39705


23 posted on 07/03/2010 11:50:08 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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Well, whatever the cause is, I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with massive amounts of growth hormones injected into the beef and poultry we consume. Nothing whatsoever. La la la...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 07/03/2010 12:00:53 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Duke C.

I would bet gentics has a lot to do with it. Most of the females in my family on my Mom’s side all had puberty early one as young as 8 and others no later than 11.I was one of the later ones at 11.


29 posted on 07/03/2010 12:05:37 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Duke C.

I think it is a combination of factors but that soy is a key player. I read a book called “The Whole Soy Story” (http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Soy-Story-Americas-Favorite/dp/0967089751/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278186549&sr=8-1) that, while it was an advocacy (anti-soy) piece, really did a great job of documenting assertions with medical studies. There was an infant formula that was around 100% soy several years ago, until medical studies revealed the devastating effects that soy had on babies.
On the Amazon website link that I provided, you can read comments by pro and anti soy readers. Even the readers who are pro soy generally say “true, soy contains cytotoxins but only if you eat too much of it.” One reader said the cytotoxin claim made sense to hear once she read it because she always wondered why the interior of her mouth would go numb when she ate it. Others talked about negative effects, most of which were hormone based.
The book has a chapter on the use of soy in Asian societies and documents that it’s consumption is more recent historically than the impression we receive, that it is fermented in the traditional Asian process (unlike modern soy production), and that the Asians traditionally ate small amounts of it as a condiment.
Once I was done reading the book, I wanted to avoid soy as much as possible. At this point I discovered that soy is now in everything as it is now being touted as a health food (!) Soy bean oil has displaced other oils in the production of mayonnaise and salad dressings. Soy proteins are used to fortify many foods. Carageenan in ice cream used to be derived from sources like kelp but now are obtained from soy. Most of the protein shakes used by body builders or health enthusiasts contain soy either exclusively or in part. And as it is sold as a health agent, people can take soy supplements (soy is a common binder in many other unrelated supplements) and in particular, women are encouraged to take soy as a hormone replacement therapy because soy contains phytoestrogens (plant based hormones). So if women can take it for hormone replacement therapy, then it has the potential to effect hormones in humans.


34 posted on 07/03/2010 1:08:17 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Duke C.
our oldest was 12, the younger two were 11... thank God
35 posted on 07/03/2010 1:14:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Duke C.

Back in 1938 when she was 9 years old, my mother started menstruation. Its been going on for decades. each girl is different.


43 posted on 07/03/2010 10:22:26 PM PDT by annelizly
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