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To: Greenperson

You said, “I believe that Barack Obama’s original birth certificate resides with the Hawaii Department of Health. I believe that document says that he was born at 7:24 P.M. on August 4, 1961 at Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that Dr. Rodney T. West was the physician of record attending the birth.”

James, you can believe anything that you want. “BELIEVE” being the operative word. Some people firmly believe in Big Foot. However, I prefer to deal in FACTS.

That you believe that Dr. Rodney West was the attending physician proves that no reader here need bother any more with answering your comments. Dr. Rodney West no longer practiced medicine in 1961, having retired for a desk job 5 years prior. The person who propagated that fantasy about Dr. West quickly backtracked on her “story” upon being confronted with those facts. Search the Web for information about Dr. West. He’s relatively famous. A war hero, iirc. Unfortunate, because it makes his biography readily available to anybody who wants to truly “Fact Check”. So go on believing what you WANT to believe instead of what’s demonstrably true.

Obama’s spokesperson contends that Obama has already released the “noble truth”—that being his online COLB. So, as others have asked, if that’s truly his birth certificate then WHY doesn’t he simply authorize the Hawaiian DoH to issue a new one, directly from their records into the waiting hands of reporters? Want me to answer that for you? Because if they do issue a new COLB, it will NOT exactly match the information that appears on that online image and, more important, their own laws require it to be CLEARLY MARKED as amended or late, if it was amended or filed late.


Well, what can I tell you? When more than 50 Obama eligibility lawsuits at every level of the American judiciary are summarily dismissed, it makes it kind of hard to arrive at a definitive truth.
Dr. Rodney T. West retired from the practice of medicine in 1997.http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/WestPage.htm
Catherine West Dale has said:
“My great uncle was Dr Rodney West, and he delivered me at Kapiolani Hospital on March 26, 1961, the same year Obama was born. That is a fact and it is on my birth certificate.”

Catherine West Dale has also said:
March 25, 2010 at 11:56 am Catherine West Dale(Quote)
“I’ll ask my dad, he knows a lot more about his uncle than I do.

Also wanted to add that Dr Rodney T. West delivered my sister at Kapiolani Hospital in March, 1964.”

I’m sure that both of these ladies plus Obama’s former teacher who named Dr. West as the birth doctor could be made available to testify before a Grand Jury or a congressional committee.

Status of Obama Eligibility Lawsuits
Allen v. Soetoro
Freedom Of Information Act Arizona District: Filed

Ankeny v. Daniels (and McCain) Indiana State: Dismissed
Indiana Supreme Court: Denied

Barnett v Obama, California Central District: Dismissed
formerly Keyes v Obama et al, 9th US Court of Appeals: Pending

Berg v. Obama et al Fed PA Eastern: Dismissed
3rd Circuit Appeals Appealed Brief FEC
Hearing 26-Oct-2009
Supreme Court Of The United States: Denied

Berg v. Obama Fed DC District: Dismissed

Beverly v FEC, US Court of Appeals 9th Circuit: Dismissed
US Supreme Court: Denied

Brockhausen v. Andrade, Texas State: Dismissed

Broe v. Reed Washington State Supreme: Dismissed

The Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri et al v. Obama et. al.
Dismissed

Cohen v. Obama, DC: Dismissed

Connerat v. Browning, Florida Supreme Court : Dismissed
Connerat v. Obama FL Small Claims: Dismissed

Constitution Party v. Lingle, Hawaii Supreme Court: Dismissed
Reconsideration: Denied

Cook v. Good et al GA Middle: Dismissed

Cook v. Simtech FL Middle: Dismissed

Craig v. US: Judgment in favor of defendant
Dismissal Affirmed
U.S. Supreme Court: Writ Denied 29-Sep-2009

Dawson v. Obama California Eastern District: Dismissed

Donofrio v Wells: NJ State Dismissed
NJ Supreme Court Denied
Supreme Court Of The United States: Denied

Ealey v. Obama TX Houston: Dismissed

Essek v. Obama KY Eastern: Dismissed

Gopalan v Obama III et. al., CA Southern: Dismissed

Greenberg v. Brunner, Ohio Wood County Court: Dismissed

Hamblin v Obama/McCain Arizona District: Dismissed

Herbert v. Obama et al Fed FL Middle: Dismissed
Supreme Court of the United States: Denied

Hollister v. Soetoro, Fed DC: Dismissed

Hunter v. Obama, US District Northern Texas : Dismissed

Jones v. Obama, Federal Court Cal. Central District: Pending

Judy v. McCain, US District Court Nevada North: Dismissed

Kerchner et al v. Obama et al., Federal District Court New Jersey: Dismissed
US Court of Appeals 10th District: Pending

Keyes v. Bowen Superior Court of CA: Dismissed

Keyes v. Lingle, Hawaii state: Dismissed

Lightfoot v. Bowen , Supreme Court Of The United States: Denied

Marquis v. Reed, Washington State Court, King County Superior: Dismissed

Martin v Lingle, HI State: Dismissed
HI State Appeal: Dismissed

Meroni et al v. McHenry County Grand Jury Foreman et al. , Illinois State: Denied

Morrow v. Barak Humane Obama Fed FL Miami: Dismissed

Neal v. Brunner, Ohio State Wood County: Dismissed

Neely v. Obama, Fed MI: Dismissed

Patriot Heart’s Network v Soetoro, DC Federal: Denied

Rhodes v. Gates TX West: Denied

Rhodes v. MacDonald GA Middle: Dismissed, Denied Rehearing, Sanctions Imposed

Roy v. Obama Fed HI: Dismissed

Schneller v. Cortes
PA Supreme Court: Denied
Supreme Court of the United States: Dismissed

Spuck v. Secretary of State, Ohio State, Erie County: Dismissed

Stamper v. US: Dismissed

Stumpo v. Granholm, MI State Court 30th Dist. Court (Ingham County): Dismissed

Strunk Fed NY Eastern: Dismissed
Strunk 2nd Circuit: Denied
Strunk v U.S. Department of State
FOIA Fed District of Columbia
DC Circuit Appealed

Sullivan v. Marshall, North Carolina Superior Court: Dismissed

Taitz v Obama, US District DC: Dismissed

Thomas v. Hosemann Fed Dist Hawaii: Dismissed

Terry v. Handel, Georgia State Court Fulton County: Denied

Welch v. Mukasey et al NY Northern District: Dismissed

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz CT State: Dismissed
Supreme Court Of The United States: Denied


580 posted on 06/28/2010 5:18:45 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

You know, James, your “evidence” would be more convincing if it weren’t in the form of an htm document from yet another supposed Obama Conspiracy debunking site. How about a link to the actual webpage from which they supposedly downloaded this West bio? Couldn’t somebody in the meantime have modified the text?

btw, why does the label say, “Rodney Thomas Weste” instead of “West”?

How about dueling biographies? Here’s one from the Pearl Harbor Survivors, presumably people who knew him well:
http://www.pearlharborstories.org/survivor.php5?name=Rodney+West%2C+M.D.&id=767&search=

“In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,000 babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine.”

There CAN be a difference between retiring from the PRACTICE of medicine and retiring from being an administrator in a hospital or clinic. Or sitting on medical boards.

About “Catherine Dale West”, I notice that you don’t link to your source. How about an unbiased, authenticated source for that testimony, James?

Anybody want to guess where that information came from? The selfsame ObamaConspiracy (so-called birther debunking) BLOG. Catherine was a commenter there. You know, like the rest of us are commenters here.

So, James, I could log on to Free Republic under the pseudonym “Mrs. Rodney T. West” and SAY,

“My husband was retired from obstetrics in 1961. He didn’t deliver Barack H. Obama because he didn’t deliver any babies after 1956. He never had that conversation with Barbara Nelson because he was too ethical to gossip about any of his patients. His colleagues and family are offended and personally insulted that anyone would accuse him of such a breach of ethics for partisan political reasons, especially when he’s no longer alive to defend his reputation.”

Would you “believe” that testimony?

I do notice that there’s no authentication of the true identity of this Catherine OR any posting of HER so-called birth certificate to back up that claim. So it’s simply another comment on a blog by somebody who gives no evidence of being Dr. West’s grandniece.

But even if this is his grandniece, would it be surprising if his niece asked him to deliver her children, as a personal favor, even though he no longer ordinarily delivered babies, especially since he was at the time an ADMINISTRATOR at the STRAUB CLINIC, not at Kapiolani?

About the “former teacher”, she must be like Zelig. She shows up at two points in time in the messiah’s lifetime. First when she has a conversation with someone who’s allegedly gossiping (against medical ethics, I must add)about the birth of a child to a 18-year-old “patient” (who she doesn’t know at all) and somehow she remembers the names of the mother, father, and child, years later (but only after the other conversant is conveniently dead). Coincidentally, she also later becomes a teacher of that same miraculous child.

Another coincidence: Dr. West died in Feb. 2008, right around the same time that somebody who worked for someone, who himself worked for Obama and had also once worked for the CIA, was sanitizing BHO’s passport files, according to a person with knowledge of the State Dept. investigation into the breach, who spoke to a reporter.

So, was someone creating a “plausible” backstory, along with a COLB? You be the judge, REASONABLE, LOGICAL people.

If you want to know how Ms. Nelson backtracked on her “wholesome STORY”, read this:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87233


587 posted on 06/29/2010 9:35:21 AM PDT by Greenperson
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