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Bear kills hiker
Casper Star Tribune ^ | June 19, 2010 | RUFFIN PREVOST

Posted on 06/19/2010 2:35:42 AM PDT by SLB

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To: reefdiver
What kind of spray does one use with a big bear?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/31/man-kills-charging-bear-with-454-casull/

21 posted on 06/19/2010 5:54:27 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: reefdiver

“What kind of spray does one use with a big bear?”

Bear spray is a specialized kind of pepper spray that can be used at a distance. The theory is that it dissuades the bear. I don’t know whether it works. It sounds about as smart as covering yourself with tabasco sauce to me. But for people who are too stupid to carry a gun, I guess it’s something.


22 posted on 06/19/2010 6:02:29 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WHO ARE YOU??! WHO ARE YOU??! **hiccup**)
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To: SLB
Trap and send that bear to the Arizona boarder
23 posted on 06/19/2010 6:11:46 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: SLB
Researchers drew blood from the captured bear and fitted it with a radio collar before releasing it, Servheen said, but it has not yet been determined whether the previously captured bear was the same one that killed Evert. Servheen initially said Friday morning that wildlife officials would not try to trap the bear again. But he said later that efforts were being made to recapture it. “If we get a chance to trap it, we will trap it,” he said. He said the investigation of the mauling is in its early stages, and that authorities will work to try to re-create what happened. If it is determined that the bear trapped Thursday is the one that killed Evert, federal wildlife officials will decide the bear’s fate, he said.

Who ARE these people? They trap a wild animal , draw blood, tie a radio collar around it , release it and maybe it kills a human and now they want to recapture it to see if it actually killed this man. They aren't even sure if they can figure it out and then what, decide it's fate? what does that mean? Why is the govt capturing and tagging animals? Why are humans taking walks in the woods where bears live? What station was the radio collar tuned to? So many questions. Just leave the animals alone and stay out of the woods where the big animals are.

24 posted on 06/19/2010 6:16:52 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response)
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To: SLB
Humans are tasty, bump.

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25 posted on 06/19/2010 6:37:21 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Evert, who was not armed and was not carrying bear spray”.

Evert may well have been disarmed by law, unConstitutional though that law may have been. As an American, Evert had a Right, codified in the Constitution, to be armed so that he could protect his life.

Man has the right to protect his life, yet in a National Forest, an American can still not carry a gun. Thanks to President Bush’s support, Americans can once again be armed in a National Park. But, the socialists in the Department of the Inferior are, to this very day, stripping Americans of their right to defend their lives by being armed.

The Federal laws MUST be changed to allow all Americans to once again be “at all times armed”. As Thomas Jefferson said, “for in such manner is tyranny kept in check”, even the tyranny of grizzly bears.

Whoever “Neal” is, either he knows nothing of firearms, or he is lying to protect the bear programs which pay his salary. To claim that a gun would not have made any difference is a bald faced lie, something all too many scientists on the government payrolls are all too good at.

Had Evert been armed, one of the world’s better scientists would be alive and that bear on the way to the taxidermist to become a rug.

Now, thanks to the faulty premises of scientists afflicted with horrific premises, the horror of their failed attempt to create a “Garden of Eden has been visited upon a 70 year old American In their doomed try to recreate the Edenic Myth, a place where dangerous predators live peacefully alongside men, their attempt to play God has failed.

The price of their failure was paid not by a professional Predator Panderer (like a “Grizzly Bear Expert”), but a 70 year old botanist. A major scientific mind became bear scat, so that minor minds, and a host of bureaucrats, could be paid a salary for doing jobs that didn’t need to be done.

The price of socialist make-work is high. Too high.

Indeed, the AgencyPersons are busy, indeed - and lying fast and furiously to cover their faulty premises and avoid liability and enraged citizen rejection of their programs.

“The people doing this are highly trained professionals who follow very detailed protocols. One of the most important protocols is public safety,” he said.

The above statement is an active joke! It is precisely because of such “professionals”, that America has had the basic Right to protect human life stripped away to protect the bears these “professionals” depend on for their cash flow. What we are seeing here is enviro-socialism’s basic premises in full failure mode.

Worse yet, the predator Panderer class is in full voice, frantically defended their “Agenda Uber Alles” positions and chattering loudly and egregiously as they play the usual “Gimme My Check Syndrome”.

This time, the wretched record of their failure is written in the blood of an American citizen, who was disarmed and sacrificed upon the alter of enviro-socialism.

No predator is worth a human life.

No Predator Panderer accepts this premise

Anyone who lives where dangerous predatory beasts are quartered by the government is placed in an untenable place by that government.

For any who disagree with my admittedly harsh dismissal of Predator Panderers, do a Google search for the photos of a bear being released by the “Armed & Rangerous”. Note that these “professionals” are so “highly trained” that the bear left the trap and then climbed up on the trap and munched down on the leg of the ParcMan who released him.

America’s “Armed & Rangerous” have managed to reach the same level of incompetence that is on display at youTube’s “How Not To Release A Leopard”.

Fire them all,
Fire them all,
the Short, the Fat, and the Tall!
Fire them ALL!


26 posted on 06/19/2010 6:40:41 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: reefdiver
What kind of spray does one use with a big bear?
It's the kind of spray you use when you're having a bad bear day. It cures the grizzlies. A little dab will do ya.
27 posted on 06/19/2010 6:48:01 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: SLB

He knew of the bear release and intentionally went to the area, he ignored warning signs, he went without any form of protection. Might have been suicide by bear.


28 posted on 06/19/2010 6:50:01 AM PDT by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: GladesGuru

You can carry a gun in a National Forest, and that has never been banned. Some of the best hunting in America is done in the National Forests. Guns were banned in National Parks but that was repealed in 2009 (Thank Senator Coburn)


29 posted on 06/19/2010 7:12:50 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: azcap

I think that is during hunting season only.

I meant that the American citizen has the right to be armed whenever he is on Federal lands. After all, those lands to belong to the citizens. ParcMan is but the steward of those lands.


30 posted on 06/19/2010 7:16:55 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: SLB
“The people doing this are highly trained professionals who follow very detailed protocols. One of the most important protocols is public safety,” he said.

Where can we read the 'very detailed protocols'?

Lots of details on how to treat the bear, not so much about the guy that lives down the trail?

31 posted on 06/19/2010 7:43:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: SLB

One of the rangers said bear spray or a gun would have done little good in a surprise encounter. So I’ll ask the Freepers on this thread. If you are surprised by a grizzly bear, would you rather be armed or unarmed? I think we know the answer.


32 posted on 06/19/2010 8:49:12 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: SLB

“Evert, who was not armed and was not carrying bear spray”.

Suicide by bear.


33 posted on 06/19/2010 8:54:47 AM PDT by LouAvul
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