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To: greatdefender

I’m from the pre-velcro age of USMC “utilities”. [the Army calls them “fatigues; we Marines don’t fatigue.... ;-) ]

Actually, if the truth be told, I am from the pre-zipper age. We had buttons on our utilities, even the “fly” was button.

I never could understand why anyone decided to put velcro on a combat uniform. Sure, buttons break or the thread lets go, but buttons are SILENT! Opening a velcro pocket is a dead giveaway (literally), like jingling dog-tags or banging metal canteens.


3 posted on 06/16/2010 8:39:56 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Hapana Obama!")
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To: BwanaNdege

I went to Basic Training in the button-fly, OD “505” uniform. Not nearly as good as the BDU, but no velcro.

The whole thing about velcro being noise was a non-starter, as there are plenty of other things to make noise and very few ninjas in the military. It was a bad idea for the new uniforms and I’m glad they’re doing away with some of it.


8 posted on 06/16/2010 8:49:30 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: BwanaNdege
I'm from the same era....buttons on everything including the fly. I could have told them velcro wasn't a good idea but heck if the machine ever listens to an ol’ Gunny.....
9 posted on 06/16/2010 8:50:21 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: BwanaNdege
My grandfather always wore a button fly, even on his business suits.

He claimed that when winter jackets came out with zippers, he was among the first to buy one. He accidentally cut off his tie.

11 posted on 06/16/2010 8:56:13 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BwanaNdege

I was in the Army from 93-99 and everthing was buttoned, including the fly. No velcro, no zippers. Too noisy and plastic is easier to subdue.

Some of these changes don’t improve things.


12 posted on 06/16/2010 8:59:21 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: BwanaNdege
My grandfather always wore a button fly, even on his business suits.

He claimed that when winter jackets came out with zippers, he was among the first to buy one. He accidentally cut off his tie.

15 posted on 06/16/2010 9:08:01 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BwanaNdege

And you can resew buttons in the field. Silently for that matter.


18 posted on 06/16/2010 9:38:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: BwanaNdege
I’m from the pre-velcro age of USMC “utilities”. [the Army calls them “fatigues; we Marines don’t fatigue.... ;-) ]

Actually, if the truth be told, I am from the pre-zipper age. We had buttons on our utilities, even the “fly” was button.

In general, I agree.

However, our tanker's coveralls, like aviators' flight suits, go on and off a LOT quicker with zippers instead of umpteen billion buttons to undo and button back up.

And inside a tank, anything that burns or melts is a bad idea. Including Velcro.


23 posted on 06/19/2010 4:55:56 PM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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