Posted on 06/14/2010 8:43:37 AM PDT by raymcc
Obama has apparently confirmed what many have suspected since the presidential campaign: that he is a Muslim, not a “committed Christian,” as he professed during the presidential campaign.
The periodical Israel Today has reported that in a private meeting with the Egyptian Foreign Minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, Obama told Gheit that he is a Muslim. The exchange was aired on Nile TV.
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I don’t base it on just that one act. I base it on everything I’ve seen and read about him. I’ve seen nothing that indicates to me he is even a theist, in the Hitler sense, and I’ve seen overwhelming evidence that persuades me personally he’s an atheist. If you believe otherwise, that is your choice. Lacking some kind of solid evidence, you won’t convince me of your view. I don’t expect to convince you either. So I suppose we’ll have to leave it there.
Hitler failed to tremble because he convinced himself that he was doing the will of his god. I think the Catholics for Choice crowd are doing the same thing. As Mrs. Don-o states, this god they serve is really a demon, but they willfully blind themsleves to the reality.
Otherwise, I cannot fathom how they could sleep at night.
I am pro-life to the hilt. Nevertheless, I draw a distinction between being pro-abortion and pro-infanticide-after-a-baby-is-born. You said the leader of this group favors putting babies out with the trash to die of cold and dehydration after they have survived an abortion. I am hoping Mrs. Dono can shed some definitive light on this claim. It may be true, but I want more than one person’s word for it before I take it to the bank.
And for all those who say no, he’s a true Muslim. Is there any other true, committed Muslim in the world who has gone so far out of his way to honor and advance the homosexual agenda? Do you see no disconnect here at all?
Again, I think culturally he is a Muslim. But if he were a true believer he would be trying to tamp down the American homosexual agenda. Instead we get a ‘safe school’ czar who is trying to queer elementary education. No real Muslim would allow that to happen, no matter what you say.
(Plus there was that pastor who got a prime slot to pray on Obama’s Inauguration Day. This man proclaims himself the “wife” of another man. Yes, Muslims are encouraged to lie in order to deceive unbelievers. But would a true Muslim allow such a man to dishonor his one and only first Inauguration? Wouldn’t a true Muslim be afraid of Allah’s displeasure?)
These are exactly my thoughts. For all his pro-islamic attitudes, the man is a "western" style Marxist and Leftist.
Of course, there remains the uncomfortable fact that moslem fundamentalists and western Leftists, for all their alleged differences, never seem to quarrel with each other (at least not in contemporary America).
Have you ever gotten to really know a malignant narcissist, up close and personal? They say what you want to hear, and then laugh their butts off when you fall for the lie. Obama’s actions say lout and clear, to anybody who is listening, that he is an atheist. He gets a major kick, though, out of fooling some people into thinking he’s a Christian and others into thinking he’s a Muslim.
Go on believing he’s a Muslim if you wish. I say his actions speak louder than his words—and they are the actions of an atheistic, humanistic, post-modern narcissist who is laughing like a hyena over the fact that some people still fall for his lies.
Again, I agree with you. If anything, he's a Communist, and the worst sort of Communist: a western Communist. There was no push for "gay marriage" in Stalinist Bulgaria. Western Communists are in a special league all their own.
Yes, there is an eerie fusion between Marxists and radical Muslims, isn’t there? I don’t completely understand that, unless they are united by a common hatred of American and the free market. Hitler and the Muslims managed a pretty hand and glove fit/relationship too, and it’s obvious what their common cause was. I guess evil will always find something to coalesce over.
Nice homepage, btw. I might want to be on your second ping list. I notice that Nachum is on it, and I’m on his list. Speaking of overlap, I think I just found one. ;)
Then I don’t either. Guess a wire got crossed somewhere.
A communist, probably, a Marxist definitely. He all but comes out in his book, authored by Ayers, and proclaims himself a Marxist. He carefully selected Marxists as friends, along with punk rock ‘performance artists’ and ‘structural feminists’ - argh! Three weirder, more radical and mentally bizarre categories he could not have selected. Even if a sane person could cope with a feminist, a ‘structural feminist’ would put them over the top. But I digress.
Obama’s disdain for western values and capitalism drips from everything he’s ever said or done. His stint as POTUS hasn’t helped. All he sees is an ungrateful populace. I wonder what fresh manner of payback he’ll dream up to unleash on us next?
No problem. :)
Me neither. Very thin on facts here.
The article say the Egyptian minister said it on a TV show , not Obama.I don’t doubt Obama is a Muslim but this article leaves me with no facts or transcripts. Hearsay
Good post good summary
Yes, he really is extremely nasty and insulting
He is a Muslim.
Who else who demand to cover up all Christian symbols ???
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/ Allah is greater than any description I testify that there is no deity except for Allah I testify that Muhammad is a Messenger of Allah Make haste towards the prayer Make haste towards the worship Prayer is better than sleep Allah is the greatest! There is no deity except for Allah
As another noted:
From the NYT article (original now scrubbed!):
"Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, ... Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” ************************
The first few lines from the "call to prayer" is the shahada. The shahada is not from the koran. It is from the hadiths. Furthermore, it is the SWEARING OF AN OATH to islam. Non-Muslims wishing to convert to Islam do so by a public recitation of the creed. It is also an oath EVEN if you are tricked or forced into reciting it and even if you wish to renounce it, you can NOT do so without fear for your life.
Jill Stanek has been pursuing Obama on this, and his latest mealy-mouth equivocation, as I remember, was that it's a fake issue because he can't imagine any doctor actually allowing a baby to die of neglect (although Jill saw exactly that!!) but he thought if the baby was so very premature and sure to die, it wouldn't make any sense to do a bunch of expensive futile procedures which would only prolong the dying process.
As dishonest as they all are,that's the general line: not "Well, let's put them out in the dumpster to die there."
Keep in mind that Obama (and pro-"choice" "Catholics" I have known in league with peopl like O'Brien) never even give a direct answer the question, posed by Rick Warren, about when a child receives human rights. Their inability to answer that question with "specificity,” saying it is “above their pay grade” tells me these people write articles, cast votes and make speeches without knowing, or even wanting to know, the answer to the very question necessary to writing those articles, making those votes and giving those speeches.
It is culpable ignorance (like saying "I'm going to burn down this cabin,m which some people claim is inhabited, without bothering to find out whether there's somebody in the cabin or not") and they may still be trying to fool themselves. They sure aren't fooling us.
An atheistic malignant narcissist.
That probably won’t make sense, however, unless you have (1) made an extensive study of pathological narcissism, or (2) have known one intimately and for a prolonged period of time.
A true malignant narcissist will not humble himself before anyone or anything. Yes, he is capable of feigning faith. He may even believe it, when he announces he is a Christian or a Muslim. It’s not a normal, healthy commitment, however. In the narcissist’s eyes, he is doing God or Allah, respectively, a massive favor by claiming to be a follower. In turn, the deity owes him, big time.
Iow, the narcissist expects to be rewarded for lowering himself to the level of the common folk. As long as everything is smooth sailing, he will continue to pay lip service to his ‘faith’. The moment one of two things happens, however, he’s outa there.
First, if the deity of his choice makes any kind of demand on him, kiss the narcissist good bye. He refuses to be told what he can and can’t do. If his ‘god’ is willing to make special rules just for him, that pretty much allow him to do anything he pleases, he’s good to go. If the ‘god’ tries to crimp his style, hosta la vista, baby.
Secondly, if anything bad happens in his life, the malignant narcissist responds with rage. If he’s living out a pseudo commitment to ‘god’, his fury knows no bounds if said ‘god’ lets him down. He will call his misguided idea of ‘god’ every blasphemous name he knows, and conclude by announcing that either there is no god, or else that god is (words I cannot bring myself to type) and unworthy of his [the narcissist’s] allegiance.
None of which is to say he won’t subsequently claim to be a Christian or a Muslim if it advances his cause. The narcissist is out for Number One. He thinks the rest of us are fools. He will say anything that redounds to his advantage. But will he follow any ‘god’, either Allah or the real one, through thick and thin, through good times and bad?
Not on your life. Not in a millennium of Sundays. Not even when pigs fly or it snows in hell. It’s just not in the malignant narcissist’s deck of cards. Period.
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Other than for a few years after WWII, the USSR always supported the Arabs/moslems.
"Islamic fundamentalism" is Communist. It's the islamic version of "liberation theology" (remember Khomeini, mach shemo?). Funny thing. Jews and chr*stians get liberal religion from the Commies, while the moslems get fundamentalism!
Nice homepage, btw. I might want to be on your second ping list. I notice that Nachum is on it, and I’m on his list. Speaking of overlap, I think I just found one. ;)
Anytime. Just let me know.
Thank you, Mrs. Don-o, for your very thoughtful, well reasoned and very well informed reply. I agree that most pro-abortionists keep themselves as ignorant as possible. If you put them in the same room with a video depicting the obvious agony a baby goes through while being aborted, they would avert their eyes. Their minds would already be forming rationalizations to explain away the images they refuse to watch. It is a witch’s brew of evil, and I pray they repent while there’s time.
Curiosity, you are the one who stated publicly that O’Brien opposed the Infant Born Alive Protection Act. As with other claims you have made, I’m sure you have documentation. I’ve gone beyond the point of curiosity now, seeing that so well informed a person as Mrs. Don-o is unaware of O’Brien’s supposedly publicly stated position on this critical issue. Please provide a link or citation that I can explore, and that fully documents your assertion. Thank you in advance.
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