[1rudeboy]

You just stated that a 1-0 soccer game is yawnworthy, but a 1-0 baseball game is not, and the difference is your level of understanding of each sport. Your level. Which is perfectly ok.

We could have an interesting discussion of why Americans started to believe that outcomes that end in a tie are "unworthy." That's a cultural thing, and in my idea, unfortunate (and not very conservative).

[Grunthor]

“You just stated that a 1-0 soccer game is yawnworthy, but a 1-0 baseball game is not”

No, I said “Most Americans can appreciate a no hitter/perfect game in baseball but even the most avid fan will tell you that a 1 - 0 game is pretty damned yawn-worthy.”

Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

“We could have an interesting discussion of why Americans started to believe that outcomes that end in a tie are “unworthy.” That’s a cultural thing, and in my idea, unfortunate (and not very conservative).”

So it’s conservative that no one “feels bad” for losing?

[Dr. Sivana]

We could have an interesting discussion of why Americans started to believe that outcomes that end in a tie are "unworthy." That's a cultural thing, and in my idea, unfortunate (and not very conservative).

Except for basketball, which is inherently high scoring, and baseball, which is conceptually different from "clock oriented" games, I agree with you. Real baseball fans appreciate a 1-0 baseball game that takes 12 innings, assuming that the low score is the result of good defense and excellent pitching. Although I dislike soccer (I did play it for one season in junior high) you won't find my reasons at all related to low scoring. That isn't the real problem anyway. If it were, higher scoring indoor soccer would be more popular.

I was sorry to find that the NHL has added all sorts of devices to reduce the number of ties in the NHL, even as the American audience continues to dwindle.

The NFL itself still has ties during the regular season, in theory. But, the combination of rule changes to increase scoring, and the addition of one quarter of sudden death overtime makes it an rarity. Some people even find the once every two year occurence to be too much.

The standard line on ties comes from one of the great all time football legends, Vince Lombardi. He stated that a tie is like "kissing your sister."

Lombardi was very much the conservative, and his motivation comes from the desire to win, or lose trying.