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UFC 115 Primer
Sherdog.com ^ | 6-10-10 | Jake Rossen (jrossen@sherdog.com)

Posted on 06/10/2010 7:12:02 AM PDT by downwdims

When you’re a fighter going 1-4 since a second win over Tito Ortiz in 2006, a natural course of action might be to fight Ortiz for a third time, just to get your bearings back.

That’s what the UFC had planned for Chuck Liddell on Saturday: Ortiz had to have neck surgery instead, which helped maintained “The Ultimate Fighter” statistic of having at least a third of coaches’ fights fall between the cracks for one reason or another. For Liddell, who has been knocked down or out in three of those four losses, fighting Ortiz represented a safer re-entry into a sport he’s not yet ready to abandon.

Rich Franklin, the replacement, is not as daunting a task as if Liddell had insisted on a top-five light heavyweight contender, but is still a step or three above Ortiz’s own elementary stand-up ability. He’s also been the busier fighter.

Liddell has clearly been taking the opportunity -- one the UFC was originally adamant about never giving him -- seriously: he looks lean. But appearances aren’t everything, and in tape from the reality series, Liddell has displayed evidence that three TKO losses and two decades of sparring and fighting may be catching up with him. If Franklin beats Liddell, he can thank himself, his camp, and Liddell’s 28 other opponents.

What: UFC 115: Liddell vs. Franklin, an 11-bout card from the General Motors Place in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

When: Saturday, June 12 at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view, with a live prelim show at 9 p.m. ET on Spike

Why You Should Watch: Because Liddell’s year off may have actually done him some good; because Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic has sworn up, down and sideways that surgery and training revisions have made him a new man; because Gilbert Yvel is never in a boring fight unless it’s against a wrestler, and Ben Rothwell is not a wrestler; and because the 20-year-old Rory MacDonald will be taking another step to recognition against Carlos Condit.

Fight of the Night: Filipovic/Pat Barry, a K-1 match with four-ounce gloves that will either signal Filipovic’s official end as a UFC-level contender or Barry’s end as a functioning, un-bibbed member of society.

Hype Quote of the Show: "Anybody says that ‘Cro Cop’ is out of his prime can feel free to fight him for me…I'll defend that to the end. In my eyes, he is the man he's always been. It's just that everybody else has gotten better. It makes it a little more difficult nowadays." -- Barry, to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, on Filipovic’s perceived career slide.

5 Questions: UFC 115

Can a year’s layoff fix what’s broken for Liddell?

For most fighters, taking a year or more off only results in problems: your ring timing is erratic, your hunger has ebbed, and the guy you’re fighting may have squeezed in two or three fights in the time you were poolside. (Even today’s schedules, where the upper echelon gets six to eight months between bouts, border on shiftlessness.)

Chuck Liddell, recipient of three TKO losses in recent memory, took 14 months to readjust his alignment -- but if the damage is upstairs, there’s really no amount of vacation time that’s going to compensate for it.

Does Rich Franklin have the power for 205?

It’s been nearly two years since Franklin notched a stoppage victory against Matt Hamill. Since then, he’s had to be content with decision victories, usually in catchweight bouts. Making a permanent move to 205 lbs. doesn’t appear to be encouraging when it comes to stopping significantly larger fighters -- and probably wouldn’t have been Franklin’s first choice, if not for the Anderson Silva effect.

Are we sleeping on Paulo Thiago?

There’s been relatively little discussion on Thiago, the Brazilian who made an instant name for himself by knocking out Josh Koscheck in February 2009. Thiago followed up with wins over Mike Swick and Jacob Volkmann, but a mixed-in loss to Jon Fitch cooled his momentum.

It shouldn’t have: virtually everyone with the exception of champion Georges St. Pierre loses to Fitch. It’s a non-issue. Thiago fights Martin Kampmann on Saturday: a win there could set him up for a significant fight against one of the doormen (Thiago Alves) to GSP’s title.

Does Ben Rothwell have anything for the UFC’s heavyweight division?

Despite a well-hyped stint in the IFL, Rothwell’s post-fight league career has been uneven at best: his first test against top-shelf competition ended with a KO loss via Andrei Arlovski, while his UFC debut was a mauling at the hands of Cain Velasquez. He might have a comparatively easier time against Gilbert Yvel on Saturday, save for the fact that Yvel is a precision striker who won’t stay in one place long enough for Rothwell to bully him. If he can’t land one on Yvel, he could be in for a demotion.

Red Ink: Liddell vs. Franklin

Considering that Chuck Liddell has never tapped in his career -- Jeremy Horn had to choke him unconscious to deliver his only submission loss -- it probably shouldn’t come as any surprise that he doesn’t want to bow out of fighting before he’s ready. Despite a paltry 20-percent win percentage in recent bouts, he insists a year off and more diligent training will pay off against Rich Franklin on Saturday.

Not that he necessarily needed it: Franklin has turned into a more conservative volume striker since his losses to Anderson Silva, and Liddell’s brawling, right-hand-cocked style may not be tested by Franklin’s power. It won’t be a zero-risk game, but at least Liddell won’t be gauging his chances at 40 against someone known for headhunting.

What It Means: For Liddell, a chance to quiet doubters; for Franklin, an opportunity to make a formal entry into the light-heavyweight division with a win over a name.

Wild Card: Liddell’s wrestling. He took Wanderlei Silva down on a whim, but if he finds himself in trouble standing, he should start to remember his impressive wrestling credentials.

Who Wins: Liddell is further outside his prime than Franklin, but being the bigger man and the better MMA brawler should keep him out of retirement at least through the end of the year. Liddell by decision.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: ufcmma

1 posted on 06/10/2010 7:12:02 AM PDT by downwdims
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To: Manic_Episode; LongElegantLegs; Treeless Branch; airborne; IllumiNaughtyByNature; Rammer
UFC/MMA Ping!


2 posted on 06/10/2010 7:14:30 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims; All

The Card

PPV Card
Chuck Liddell vs. Rich Franklin
Patrick Barry vs. Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic
Paulo Thiago (No. 5 WW) vs. Martin Kampmann (No. 10 WW)
Ben Rothwell vs. Gilbert Yvel
Carlos Condit vs. Rory MacDonald

Spike Prelims
Tyson Griffin vs. Evan Dunham
Mac Danzig vs. Matt Wiman

Prelims
David Loiseau vs. Mario Miranda
James Wilks vs. Peter Sobotta
Claude Patrick vs. Ricardo Funch
Mike Pyle vs. Jesse Lennox

http://www.sherdog.com/events/UFC-115-Liddell-vs-Franklin-12447


3 posted on 06/10/2010 7:17:59 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims

Do you have a list of the other fights?


4 posted on 06/10/2010 7:18:30 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

post 3


5 posted on 06/10/2010 7:25:50 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims

Thanks, you posted the list as I typing my inquiry. ...good timing.


6 posted on 06/10/2010 7:31:17 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

7 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:29 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims

Wooo! Thanks for the ping!


8 posted on 06/10/2010 8:24:13 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: downwdims
With a couple of exceptions it seems like a cardful of has beens, but even so some intriguing match ups.

I'll be out that night but hope to be home in time for at least the main event.

Thanks for the ping!

9 posted on 06/10/2010 8:41:55 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Manic_Episode

The card on a whole is interesting and has lots of ramifications going forward. Esp the Dunham/Griffen fight.


10 posted on 06/10/2010 9:13:38 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: downwdims
"Anybody says that ‘Cro Cop’ is out of his prime can feel free to fight him for me..."

If he can make 145 I'll fight him. I'll even agree to Pride rules. Heck I'll move up to 155 and fight him.
11 posted on 06/10/2010 2:23:43 PM PDT by Rammer
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To: downwdims
Great card. Very entertaining..

Didn't much care for the Condit Macdonald stoppage. Macdonald was 9 seconds from winning but he was getting his butt whooped bad. Judgement call.

Was very impressed with Kampmann. I picked Thiago to win and couldn't have been more wrong.

Was very pleased to see Cropcop win. He seems to have gotten his heart back.

Liddell was a beast right up until it was time for his nap. Sorry to see him lose.

All in all a very fun night.

Really looking forward to seeing Fedor fight again in a few weeks and Lesnar after that.

Great summer of fights ahead.

12 posted on 06/13/2010 3:58:46 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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