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Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed
Gawker ^ | 06/09/10

Posted on 06/09/2010 4:02:59 PM PDT by KevinDavis

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To: dayglored
So I find it quite dismaying, how many FReepers are so blinded by their hatred of all things Apple, ...

Me, too. The anti-Apple Freepers sound like girly-boys and act like liberals.

61 posted on 06/09/2010 11:10:44 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: dayglored; tacticalogic
Computers are inanimate objects. They do not cultivate animosity. Something else is doing that.

My 2 cents: Those who can build their won computers and write their own programs resent us who can't, or don't care to, and are willing to pay more to not have to. The fact that we also get a superior product is an additional thorn in their side. They usually respond by saying how they could have built a much better machine for much less money and call us Mac users gay for good measure.

In short, they sound like girly boys and act like liberals, and, as you say, over an inanimate object, although it does seem to come alive at times.

62 posted on 06/09/2010 11:30:24 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: KevinDavis

........Hackers most likely from Russia,China, or Middle East.


63 posted on 06/10/2010 3:37:34 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: Swordmaker

Oh, they are out there, at least in labs. The point is, you can always get someone to click on something, put in their password, and release the hounds of hell into a system.

Human engineering is always a weak point...:)


64 posted on 06/10/2010 3:46:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Swordmaker

Pesonally, my opinion is that there is a lot of hate by mostly reasonable people towards Apple products.

I am surprised that, with Apple being as unsecure as it is made out to be by some, that it hasn’t been attacked by those who fanatically hate its products.

There is a difference, I think. There are many people who hate Microsoft products, but it is, in many cases, the result of experience with the products.

There are many who hate Apple products, and many of them DON’T have much experience with Apple products. There is something else they are angry at.

So with all that anger, and all that talent, I am very surprised there have been no attacks on macs to speak of.


65 posted on 06/10/2010 3:52:44 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: dayglored

Another reason too is because Apple has been a hit among those in the creative arts/graphic design/communications community, one of which the Windows based computers have not done so well in.


66 posted on 06/10/2010 3:55:39 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: TheStickman

Well, it can be done. Funny thing, though...nobody does.

I suspect the intellectual level of the vast majority of windows hackers simply doesn’t provide them with enough tools to do so.

And that is fine with us who use Macs. I don’t care about the reason, I care about the result.


67 posted on 06/10/2010 3:56:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
My .02: Most of the animosity is due to a loud faction of MAC users who are self-absorbed. Everthing has to revolve around what they do and what is best for them right now. They believe that whatever is the best product for them is the best product for everyone. They're special, and everyone else is stupid because they won't change.

They have short memories of the years that Apple stubbornly hung onto an inferior hardware platform and the consequences that has in terms of the industry. They think enterprise datacenters should just forklift millions of Windows machines and re-write billions of lines of code so that everyone can be like them.

They praise Jobs and his business model to the heavens, but I have yet to have any of them be able to tell me they think the industry would be better off if Microsoft had adopted that same business model early on instead of concentrating on writing a hardware agnostic OS, and letting the hardware sector flourish around it.

Disclaimer: I am a Window system administrator and Exchange administrator, and I'm still waiting to see that mythical open source Exchange killer.

68 posted on 06/10/2010 4:08:43 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
My .02: Most of the animosity is due to a loud faction of MAC users who are self-absorbed. Everthing has to revolve around what they do and what is best for them right now. They believe that whatever is the best product for them is the best product for everyone. They're special, and everyone else is stupid because they won't change.

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projection
69 posted on 06/10/2010 4:22:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
projection

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denial

See how easy that is?

70 posted on 06/10/2010 4:24:47 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Swordmaker

But apple REQUIRES the info to be shared with Apple and they CHOSE to share it will their ONLY business Partner Apple.

You know if you do business with a PARTNER you can be held liable for thier mistakes as if it’s your OWN mistake. Read the article they explain WHY Apple should be held accountable for this (as well as ATT).


71 posted on 06/10/2010 6:13:33 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

I had to register my Droid with a Gmail address. And I’ll blame Verizon if Verizon’s servers give out my email address.


72 posted on 06/10/2010 6:16:42 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker
Oh, BS, for-q-Clinton, Gawker's opinion is just that... opinion... and a biased one at that, considering Gawker is the owner of the Blog involved in a criminal and civil battle with Apple over it's purchase of the found/stolen iPhone prototype.

Ah I see you're using the technique from the 1990's Bill Clitnon White House...attack the messenger when you can't attack the facts. FACT: Apple Requires their customers share that info to use their 3G iPAD. FACT: Apple chose ATT as the sole business partner for 3G iPAD. FACT: Apples & ATT's method of making it easy for an iPAD user on ATTs website was hacked. FACT: Apple and ATT are business partners for the iPAD and consumers who bought one had no other choice but to use ATT. FACT: The system was easily hacked to expose personal information. Fiction: Apple is blameless in this situation.

73 posted on 06/10/2010 6:17:15 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: rlmorel
So with all that anger, and all that talent, I am very surprised there have been no attacks on macs to speak of.

Would it matter...all attacks get ignored and dismissed by Macbots time after time. So I'm not playing that game anymore. Fact is the Mac has been exploited but then the rules of what an exploit means changes everytime a new exploit is found.

74 posted on 06/10/2010 6:21:00 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: antiRepublicrat

With the droid you have a choice in service providers though. Where is my choice in providers with the iPad?


75 posted on 06/10/2010 6:26:56 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: KoRn
How long does it take before people aren't stupid about it?

When customers stop accepting it as an excuse to drop support.

We had the problem on an install once, someone blabbed about it being on a VM. Before they would give us any further support we had to secure a hardware server, install it there, and call back when we hit the problem again. They didn't care about my "Told you it wasn't the VM." The purpose was apparently to wear us down to the point where we would quit calling support.

So the moral of the story is: Before buying anything ask "Do you support it on VMWare/Virtual Server/...?" If not, don't buy it. If they lose enough sales due to lack of VM support they will eventually sign on to it, and at that point they can't just blame the VM and stop supporting you anymore.

76 posted on 06/10/2010 6:40:11 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dayglored

” For those of you already familiar with the infamous “goatse”, yes, that’s not a joke, it’s absolutely serious. It’s a security firm. Their logo is a hoot. http://security.goatse.fr/

I went to their web site and looked at the bottom of the page. Wholly owned subsidiary of GNAA (.eu). That is also quite enlightening.


77 posted on 06/10/2010 6:40:56 AM PDT by Poser (Enjoying tasty animals for 58 years)
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To: for-q-clinton
With the droid you have a choice in service providers though. Where is my choice in providers with the iPad?

For this particular phone there is no other choice. Remember, even though Droid is available on many carriers in the US, individual phones that run Droid are often carrier-specific. Of course internationally the iPad is available on many carriers, and any of them could screw up too.

78 posted on 06/10/2010 6:52:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Right, but google isn’t locking you into Verizon as their ONLY partner for service. Apple and ATT in the US are one entity when it comes to iPad/iPhone. To try and deny that is just showing you’re willing to defend apple at any cost.


79 posted on 06/10/2010 7:01:40 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: KoRn
I've already reached my tolerance for BS tonight/this morning. I get a call about an hour ago from one of my co-workers. There was some sort of error a user was getting(some .NET runtime error or some such thing). My co-worker made the mistake of mentioning to the app support person that the server is virtualized. Suddenly, some form of superstition kicks in, and the fact it's a VM is the problem, regardless of the fact the server has been running fine like that for MONTHS, and they supposedly support VMs. As if the server has a soul, or some form of conciseness, and says.. "Noooo I can't be VM'd... put me back into my body!!!!". Were people superstitiously 'afraid' of RAID5 like this when it first caught on? How long does it take before people aren't stupid about it? /rant off

Wow I didn't think it was possible but you managed to bring Microsoft into this thread by some .NET error. I can't say I'm shocked though...it always happens.


80 posted on 06/10/2010 7:09:40 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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