Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21

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[RGVTx]

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts

[hennie pennie]

The article was a translation posted at SM.

It is a VERY VERY VERY long article, so here is a link to the page it appeared on, the fast mobile version:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8078.290;wap2

I have NO idea if there are copyright issues or not, and it is such a long article that I decided to not simply excerpt.

The paragraph about the Tidal Surges is about two thirds of the way through.

[hennie pennie]

http://www.larepublica.pe/el-asesinato-de-stephany/09/06/2010/desayuno-con-frialdad-pensando-en-como-deshacerse-del-cuerpo

Spanish to English translation

Breakfast with cold thinking about how to dispose of the body

For calipazaga

Created on 09/06/2010 - 07:55

Confession. Van der Sloot was reaching the hotel the girl remains in a suitcase. In the end the murderer withdrew because he feared that employees will leave to intervene for their “luggage” for free. Related [1]

Ernesto L. Guerrero

[hennie pennie]

There was an article posted at SM this morning which mentioned that Joran had been researching Tidal Surges near Lima, Peru. In case you’re interested, posted a link to the page on that forum where the article appeared.

[amom]

OK now I can see what this is...thanks for the link to the story. It was something that contained a tide table in his backpack along with his laptop. Won’t have that time stamp I was hoping for then. Drat.

Now to play catch.

[hennie pennie]

I read hours of the follow up, and from the comments it sounded like he'd done online searches.

SORRY for my misunderstanding.

[amom]

The enquirer allegedly has a photo of the crime scene on its cover:

Thanks

[toldyou]

Thanks!

[amom]

from the comments it sounded like he'd done online searches.

Very understandable (aren't these translations a load of fun?). I'm still hoping he did do a tide table search online also and it's time stamped on his computer. 8D

[Carley]

The money isn’t the issue. It’s allowing the killer to walk away.

[amom]

Thought you might like to see this. Translated via Google

"...Also, it was learned that police also agreed with the suspension of the measure, because the hotel and surrounding area do not meet in the morning any conditions for security and because they had knowledge, intelligence agents, that Dutchman could be lynched by inflamed people....

http://www.ojo.com.pe/ojo/nota.php?txtSecci_id=25&txtNota_id=368861.

[spectre]

I was clearly wrong when saying I thought I saw the girl go into the hotel lobby carrying a clutch bag. I apologized for the error in a FReepmail to the gracious sod poodle..

The new Casino video is out and if anyone noticed a sack around her waist, I'd appreciate a confirmation, LOL.

Remember, tomorrow morning 9AM CST there will be a live Press Conference from Peru.

See ya all then...night now.

sw

[toldyou]

You have posted a ton of valuable information on all these threads. Thank you so very much for all your hard work! It is much appreciated!

[Canedawg]

Joran had been researching Tidal Surges near Lima, Peru.

Hmmm...verry interesting.

[amom]

You have posted a ton of valuable information on all these threads. Thank you so very much for all your hard work! It is much appreciated!

I ditto that !

[hennie pennie]

I saw the casino video, but I was mesmerized by the large silver watch around her wrist, that I didn't notice anything around her waist.

I wonder how many surveillance cameras that casino has???

So many!

Today I was reading lots of postings at other forums and there are many others who also believe she was carrying a purse. I suspect that the posters who detect an item in her hand have better monitor resolution than all the other posters who emphatically state there is NOTHING in her hand??

Inotherwords, for me, until the video is professionally enhanced, I won't know what to believe.

[hennie pennie]

Amom explained that he had a table of the tidal surges in his backpack.

WHY would a non-surfer be interested in tidal surges??

What I mean to ask is, would this type of information be crucial to human traffickers or for illegal drug shipments and/or pickups???

[hennie pennie]

>>>> "...the Dutchman could be lynched by inflamed people...." <<<< Isn't it strange to hear of these NORMAL human reactions to a psychopath, in comparison to all the fawning of the Arubans about their sweet liddle boy Joran?

[hennie pennie]

Thank you.

The most interesting item I came across this evening was any hypothesis posed at SM that perhaps Greta van Susteren is the source of the $25,000 ---- that Joran had gone to Greta, who had gone to Beth with his proposal, and also told Beth that SHE, Greta would get the money IF she could have an exclusive story about his arrest for the murder of her daughter...

VERY interesting, and IMO, perceptive idea.

Unfortunately, I have NO idea when Beth Holloway will be able to talk about the FBI operation, as they have told her to NOT make any comments.

Greta would have access to lots of money, either of her own, her husbands, or FOX NEWS.

Anyway, the posters were correct to point out that there MUST be a reason why Greta is simply furious with the FBI and so maybe she is personally invested, maybe it was HER MONEY that the Aruban Dutchboy travelled on?

[kcvl]

Then why did she only have on her red panties if he didn't try to sexually assault her? And why did she have red carpet burns/bruises on her knees as if he was forcing her to have oral sex?

I don't think we will ever know the truth about this murder just like we will never know about Natalee's. Joran is such a damn liar. Nothing he says is the complete truth.

I think they both refused to have sex with him and he became enraged and killed them. Money could have been another motive in this latest one but I don't think it's the only reason though.

Joran is one sick animal. Someone should and probably will put him out of his misery soon enough.

[kcvl]

This is exactly what Joran deserves...

Having visited more than two dozen foreign prisons, Griffith says Lurigancho is in a world of its own.

“There are 35 guys in a room there,” he says. “They don’t have beds, they go to the bathroom on the floor and the showers run once a week for 15 minutes. Fifty percent of the inmates have AIDS or tuberculosis, and you can die from eating the food.”

If convicted and sent to Lurigancho, van der Sloot would be in considerable danger, Griffith says. “Let me put it to you like this,” he says. “You have 10,000 guys in a prison with 3,000 beds. Eighty percent of these guys have nothing. A hundred bucks will carry them for four months, so they’ll stand in line [to be paid] to cut his throat.”