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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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To: AUJenn
I suspect that ANYONE who claimed to have info about Natalee which would only be shared with Beth would have NO difficulty hearing from her.

ISFAIK, she has public email addies attached to her Natalee Holloway Foundation.

441 posted on 06/04/2010 10:01:04 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: All
One WS poster said that HLN reporter said time of arrival at the border would by 3 p.m. EST

But very recently another WS poster said that arrival was IMMINENT, any minute now.

Time to check the TV.

442 posted on 06/04/2010 10:20:06 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx; LucyT; All

Thanks so much for the pings!

Has anyone seen a photo of Stephany’s mom? OMG, I thought it was Beth! Halfway down page....two pics holding stuffed animal at Stephany’s funeral..

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7645.0;prev_next=next#new


443 posted on 06/04/2010 10:20:25 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: toldyou; RGVTx; Canadian Outrage; truthluva; NATH; Palladin; Rushmore Rocks; nuntukamen; penowa; ...

Check out photo of Stephany’s mom, about halfway down page:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2526320/posts?page=443#443

Thanks, toldyou.


444 posted on 06/04/2010 10:42:14 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: toldyou; All
I don't like how hard it is to navigate Scared Monkeys, but I noticed that photo this morning, and like you, I presumed it was an old photo of Beth Twitty somewhere in Aruba.

This San Diego mobile website downloads FAST, and anyone interested in seeing the photo of Stephany Flores' mother can click here:

Photo of Stephany's mother --- misidentified by the lame msm as a photo of Natalee Holloway --- http://signon.mobi/sdut/db_11875/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Jszn2Lkq&storycount=1664&detailindex=9&pn=&ps=

445 posted on 06/04/2010 10:43:07 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2527875/posts

New thread re: extortion info. Not much new.


446 posted on 06/04/2010 10:56:04 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: LucyT

http://tinyurl.com/256k37d


447 posted on 06/04/2010 10:59:00 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: All; Mike Darancette; sodpoodle; AUJenn; fatnotlazy; RGVTx; LucyT; STARWISE; Kartographer; ...
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/

"FBI video taped Joran van der Sloot extorting money from a representative of Beth Holloway. The taping occurred on May 10th in Aruba and Aruban authorites worked with the FBI to do this. This was a joint operation (FBI & Aruba) carefully planned and executed."

448 posted on 06/04/2010 11:03:57 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl; LucyT; RGVTx; All
I'm not sure that I understand this..... do the posters mean to infer that Paulus did NOT die, that he is alive & well, that he has disappeared under a new identity?

Also, I'm unsure who SANTOS is, and why either Anita van der Sloot and/or her son Joran would be searching NH-websites to learn more about Santos.

449 posted on 06/04/2010 11:08:29 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

THE CORRUPT ARUBA GOVERNMENT AND DUTCH JUDICIARY- A HISTORY OF DECEPTION IN THE CASE OF MISSING TEEN NATALEE HOLLOWAY

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2- Jan van der Straten- lead investigator for the Aruba Police Department and close friend of Paulus van der Sloot

Jan van der Straten’s role as lead investigator in the first two months of the Natalee Holloway case demonstrates the obvious conflicts of interest found in the Aruba investigation. Van der Straten was, by Paulus van der Sloot’s own public admission, a “close friend” of Van der Sloot.

Van der Straten would have been very instrumental in the decision not to arrest the three main suspects in Natalee’s disappearance until 10 days after she vanished, even though he knew almost immediately that they lied about dropping the Alabama teen off at the Holiday Inn.

Van der Straten would have also been involved in the decision to arrest two black security guards on June 5, 2005 which in effect prolonged the time given to the three suspects to cover their tracks and eliminate any evidence that should have been collected immediately upon the discovery of the Holiday Inn lie.

Van der Straten stated to Dutch media on June 12, 2005 that he believed Natalee was no longer alive and when asked by the reporter why he would make such a comment he responded, “Because I know the evidence and you don’t.” Interestingly, two years later the lead investigator has never explained what that evidence is.

He also made comment months after he retired and moved to the neighboring island of Bonaire that the case should have been solved early on but that there were “people who didn’t want to cooperate.” Since suspects rarely cooperate, Van der Straten had to have been talking about a corrupt Aruban government and Dutch judiciary.

Any high-ranking official with such a close relationship to a suspect’s parent should have recused himself or alternately been forced off the case, but this is Aruba, a country in the grip of Mafia control who never saw a conflict of interest they didn’t like.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=599.20

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JORAN AND PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT WERE GIVEN PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT THROUGHOUT THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY INVESTIGATION

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Does the Dutch aristocracy in Aruba protect their own from criminal prosecution as a matter of routine? Or is the Natalee Holloway case an exception? It is apparent Joran Van Der Sloot and his father received preferential treatment from the very beginning of the investigation and are still being afforded special status to this day.

It is a well-known fact that the Lead Investigator assigned to the case, Jan Van der Straten, is a close friend of Joran’s father, Paulus Van Der Sloot. Minister of Justice Rudy Croes reported many suspicious telephone calls between Jan Van der Straten and Paulus Van Der Sloot in the very early stages of the investigation.

Jan Van der Straten knew by the first day of Natalee’s reported disappearance that the three main suspects last seen with the teen, Joran Van Der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, had lied to police about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn. A review of the hotel security tapes by Natalee’s mother revealed that fact. Yet Prosecutor Karin Janssen failed to arrest the three suspects and search their homes, moves she was afforded under Dutch law, as the world witnessed with the arrest of the two innocent, framed security guards. No such arrests were made for 10 more days, and then only the Kalpoe residence was searched – while the van der Sloot apartment wasn’t ordered to be searched for another six days.


450 posted on 06/04/2010 11:10:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: hennie pennie

1- JORAN VAN DER SLOOT LIES TO POLICE BUT IS NOT ARRESTED

Joran Van der Sloot was not arrested for 10 days despite the fact police and justice department officials knew he and the Kalpoe brothers lied about dropping her off at the Holiday Inn.

Prosecutor Karin Janssen and Lead Investigator Jan Van Der Straten knew within 24 hours that the three suspects had lied to them about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn but chose not to treat them as suspects. Jan Van der Straten, according to Paulus Van Der Sloot, is a “close friend”, a blatant conflict of interest by any stretch of the imagination.

4- PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT WAS ALLOWED TO CHANGE HIS SON’S STATEMENT TO POLICE

Paulus Van Der Sloot was allowed to be present when the Aruban police took Joran’s first witness statement and was allowed to edit Joran’s statement before it was entered into the public record. That statement is still missing.

Furthermore it was his close friend and Lead Investigator Jan van der Straten who was present for the statement and allowed Paulus Van Der Sloot to edit his son’s statement.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=599.0


451 posted on 06/04/2010 11:11:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

It’s gut-wrenching to remember the cover-up.


452 posted on 06/04/2010 11:15:05 AM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: randog; texaschick; Gene Eric; Hot Tabasco; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; jimbo123; ElkGroveDan; ...
The extortion story has been discussed over here at the ongoing discussion thread for a couple days now.

It was a STING operation. Here's what I just posted about it from the GretaWIRE:

""FBI video taped Joran van der Sloot extorting money from a representative of Beth Holloway. The taping occurred on May 10th in Aruba and Aruban authorites worked with the FBI to do this. This was a joint operation (FBI & Aruba) carefully planned and executed."

453 posted on 06/04/2010 11:16:45 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: beckysueb

*ping*


454 posted on 06/04/2010 11:25:26 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl
It is so distressing that apparently nothing can be done against all those corrupt LEOs.

I'd luv to learn what Arubans are currently saying about this, it's just atrocious.

455 posted on 06/04/2010 11:27:19 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl; muawiyah
THANK YOU for all these great postings to help refresh everybody's memories.

Say.... wasn't Joran's own godfather involved in the coverup, too? What was his godfather's name?

I am now starting to wonder if Paulus IS alive, the death of Joran's dad was a sham, and he is very busily employed, under a whole brand new identity in human trafficking????

And maybe his firstborn was working for him?????

Is it possible???

456 posted on 06/04/2010 11:31:32 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kcvl; onyx
Do you remember how, five years ago, SO much was made of the fact that the casino videos showed PAULUS next to NH at one of the tables? Does this ring a bell? How Aruba denied it was Paulus?

I recall that the first set of public messageboards at SM had MANY postings stating that it was PAULUS, the father, and *not* Joran who was interested in Natalee.

What if Paulus IS alive, and even Anita doesn't know, what if a CARTEL-->>with BIG MONEY faked his death/funeral, and he is actually living somewhere and has NH with him, detained against her free will???

The human trafficking rumors that arise again & again & again in this case are just chilling.

457 posted on 06/04/2010 11:36:56 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

2008 report

http://clintvanzandt.newsvine.com/_news/2008/11/25/2148271-joran-van-der-sloot-i-sold-natalee-holloway-for-10000

I googles this - but could not enter the site:
mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=13&f=2936&t=5995568...

**Daddy Van der Sloot’s best friend Jan Van der Stratten was a Judge and also the Police Commissioner. He was also Jorans God Father. Remember dutch law- no body ...no case.**


458 posted on 06/04/2010 11:40:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: onyx
Natalee's aunt (on her mother's side - Natalee's mother's brother's wife) is a good friend of mine. I hope Joran rots in hell!

******

Flashback - May 31, 2005

Loving Natalee – Beth Holloway

Page 58: Detective Jacobs asks us to come to the police station in Bubali in about an hour to give our official statements.

Page 59: Jug, Jodi, and I arrive at Bubali at eight o’clock sharp …

Detective Jacobs is sitting behind the counter in a reclining swivel office chair. As we move toward him, he leans back in his chair. “We’re ready to give our statements,” we say, anxious to tell him the facts about Natalee’s disappearance we’ve gathered thus far, so that an investigation can get under way.

Page 60: He pushes one hand and then the other down and across his belly, which is extended by his rearing back. He says, “I’ll have to eat my frosted flakes first,” and then, running a hand across his jaw, adds, “and get a shave before I can deal with you.” And with that he gets up from the chair, exits through the little swinging door, and disappears ….

A half hour passes. Then an hour.

I WISH THERE WAS AN AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACT HERE TO HELP US, SOMEONE TO ACT AS AN LIAISON.

I get up from the plastic chair, go outside, and sit down in the gravel driveway ….

I’m outside about thirty minutes when another officer, police chief Jan van der Straten, comes out to the driveway and tells me bluntly and curtly to get up. “You can’t sit in the gravel like this. Come back inside.”

Inside, two more hours pass …

After almost three hours detective Jacobs comes back into the waiting area and tells me he doesn’t need me today.

459 posted on 06/04/2010 11:43:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: sodpoodle

bttt - forgot about that!


460 posted on 06/04/2010 11:45:06 AM PDT by kcvl
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