Posted on 05/31/2010 8:14:20 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
But the IMac is at least $300 more in the first place. Like I said in a previous post. For what I use my computer for my laptop is more than adequate. I don’t do graphics, I don’t do sound programs or music production. I surf the web, listen and download music, watch movies and sometimes play games. I also need compatibility.
I work for a multi-billion dollar company who use literally 1000s of PC’s in one of the largest computer networks on earth. PC’s are business machines. They were developed as tools for industry. They have been adapted for household use. Apple has always relied on the educational and home market for their sales.
Once again, Macs are not bad machines, just not what I require.
One again. I don’t care what machine you use. Read my other posts.
My time spent helping people with their computers dropped tremendously when they switched to Macs. Maybe you should consider how much your and their time is worth and how much the time you spend repairing and they spend without a computer is worth. For me that makes up the difference in a hurry.
I've had my iMac for almost three years. By now with a PC I would have upgraded the video card or CPU by now, but I'm still perfectly happy with my Mac's performance. In fact, with OS upgrades it has gotten noticeably faster.
For me, I always have my LCD connected digitally to my computer and have been doing so since about 1999 or earlier when Compaq came out with a pre-DVI digital connector
I can't think of what that would be. The only pre-DVI connector I know about in use for monitors was the SGI one for the famous 1600SW.
I think this is an excellent example of the root of the Apple vs PC debate.
Personally, I didn't interpret any of that as 'holier than thou." Why did you, dennisw?
Is it attitudes and perceptions such as yours which give rise to the Fanboy, gay, smug, arrogant, accusations? If so, and I think it is, the difficulty is with you and others of a similar mindset. I don't think RightOnTheLeftCoast intended to have a superior tone nor did I see that in what he said. However, you did. Why?
I am reminded of Harry Truman responding the "Give them Hell, Harry" plaudit. He said, "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's Hell." Is it possible that is true about Apple products and Apple haters?
So, a greeter at Wal*Mart, huh?
:-)
Most families could fill their non-ego needs in one room houses, also. Well, make that two rooms. I guess we should have walls around the bathroom. Still, it would cost a lot less than houses with those ego-soothing but unnecessary family rooms, dining rooms, separate kitchens, garages, multiple bedrooms, etc.
It is a shame those greedy real estate salesmen sell people more than they need, and what about those slick TV commercials that brainwash people into moving to gated communities with golf courses. Unforgivable!
Netbooks can be a bit underpowered. The same woman who I helped buy a 14” Dell laptop w 4gb memory....She had bought a netbook (w 1gb memory) and it was just too slow as she described it. She returned it then got the Dell....Very happy with it and I prepped it for her. No trial-ware on it except an anti-virus which I got rid of and put on Avira. Checked all her security settings
Instead of on too much computer for what they want to do such as surf the Internet. Apple sells too much computer but so so others. I can help someone who thinks he needs an $800 Gateway w 6gb ram and a great graphics card to surf the Internet. He said to me about a less expensive computer I was steering him towards, “Are you sure it can burn DVDs?”.
I old him all new computers burn DVDs today
I applaud your interest in helping others buy what is best for them. I respect your admonishing Apple for what you consider exploitation of the consumer. I disagree with that.
Apple, Dell and HP make computers for mass marketing, much of it retail. As a result, they offer a limited number of options at retail outlets or for off-the-shelf ordering. That is why many computers contain what you consider overkill. All manufacturers will build a computer to your specs if you order directly from them and are willing to wait for a custom product.
In addition there are many who make, warehouse, and distribute parts and peripherals for those who enjoy making their own or making and reselling computers. In fact, I think that is the way Michael Dell got started in his dorm room at UT. It is expected that if one buys the parts wholesale and assembles them himself it can be done cheaper. Of course, the needed software still needs to be rounded up and installed but it is still cheaper.
Apple is different in that they sell a system consisting of their own internally developed software designed specifically to run on their hardware, or you could say it the other way - they build the HW specifically for their SW. That is one reason their service is the best of all the manufacturers, they make both and there is no finger pointing common among separate HW/SW makers. Their service is based and staffed in America by Americans. That also costs more to support than stamping out cookie-cutter commodity computers and outsourcing service to third world countries.
That is why, IMO, you are off base in condemning Apple.
that doesn’t get you off the hook for explaining where your statement comes from. You posted that Apple gouges with their software prices - yet have offered no examples. Then you cop out by saying you don’t care what machine I use? What does that have to do with the statement I was responding too?
Close :)
Dude you are approaching fan boy status with me. I corrected myself on another post. Even Apple users admit that Apple software is protected to an extreme. Good for viruses, bad if you want to write software for a Mac.
Google Apple vs. Adobe if you want an example. Oh, I am not on anyone’s “hook”.
"protected" in what way? Digital rights managed? No at all. Registered out the Kazoo so that it won't work if you don't kowtow Apple by doing so? Nope. Requires a serial number to operate? Only certain high end apps... but not their OS... or even most apps. So exactly WHAT do you mean by "protected"?
The Freepers here who buy Apple products are mostly demanding customers (power users) who need a superior computer, not just a good enuff computer. So they are honest and legit Apple customers
As a retiree I don't need a superior computer - I just can't be bothered with being paranoid about my computer when I have an alternative. I'm relaxed using a Mac; I bought an XP machine for a relative (needed an app), and now he wants me to fix it and I'm disgusted. I don't care about identifying the latest hack and getting the antidote to it on my machine. I don't hafta, so I don't. Thank God, I don't have to be that tight with my money at this point. Obama may manage to change that, of course . . .
Get the relative a Windows 7 machine...lot cheaper than Apple....and he’ll thank you. Tell him it’s the last computer you get him and to donate the other one
Windows 7 locks down security very easy so he won’t he bothering you. Or maybe you, going by your credo, should have gotten him Apple to begin with instead of XP machine
Try reading and quoting my entire reply next time. Read the article above. It says what I have been trying to say. I’m done arguing with you and anyone else in this thread.
Peace.
That was a typical non-responsive troll's answer, PJammers. I asked YOU what you meant by "protected" software... and you linked to an article about Apple requiring iPhone OS programers to use documented APIs and to only link to documented WEBKit functions... and to use the Apple supplied tools to write the software if they want it to be allowed on the iPhone and iPads. You come back complaining about my not quoting an extraneous sentence in your post... absurd. I did read your entire reply... and I have read that link before and found it less than useful. Some developers want to use anything and everything they want to develop apps they want to run on iPhone OS and DEMAND that Apple has to accept their Apps... Apple says NO. It's Apple's playground. You want to play there, you play by Apple's rules. End of story. The article quotes experts who state that there a good, well founded REASONS for Apple's requirements to use their APIs and Apple's Tools.
“Apple says NO. It’s Apple’s playground. You want to play there, you play by Apple’s rules. End of story”
You answered your own question. Oh and a classic troll move would be to call people names when they can’t support the argument.
Once again peace.
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