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Five-state wolf plan panelists divided
Longview Daily News ^ | May 30, 2010 | Rich Landers / The Spokesman-Review

Posted on 05/30/2010 3:29:35 PM PDT by jazusamo

Five states are working at dramatically different paces to deal with the reintroduction of gray wolves.

Wyoming's kill 'em on sight plan landed them in last place, mired in court rulings that left their wolves on the endangered species list.

Montana and Idaho are heading into the second year of actively managing delisted wolves with sport hunting, which the states plan to ramp up to kill more wolves this season.

Idaho is even considering trapping and baiting after hunters failed to kill the quota of wolves in remote areas where packs were decimating elk herds.

Oregon led the pack of states dealing with gray wolf reintroduction by adopting a management plan in 2005 — long before wolves had been documented as breeding in the state.

Washington, however, continues to scratch away at a plan despite being on par with Oregon as home for two confirmed wolf packs heading into this year's denning season. Washington officials also suspect a few more pairs might be breeding.

Meanwhile, the door remains open to wolves wandering in from Canada and Idaho.

The most contentious point among the proposals centers on the number of wolves Washington will tolerate.

The draft plan sets the threshold at 15 breeding pairs. Once that number is reached, the state's wolf protections could be relaxed and management options, such as hunting, would be on the table. (The gray wolf is an endangered species throughout Washington under state law, while still protected by federal law only in the western two-thirds of the state.)

But the number 15 isn't making anyone happy in a state that tends to be polarized into more conservative east-side camps and more liberal west-side contingents.

"The science tells us that 15 breeding pairs qualifying for recovery is not high enough for sustainable populations," said John Blankenship, a retired U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist and the current executive director of Wolf Haven International in Tenino, Wash.

Jack Field, Washington Cattlemen's Association executive vice president, sees it differently: "Fifteen is too many — I hope we've learned at least that much from the experience of Idaho and Montana."

Blankenship and Field were named in 2007 to the 18-member citizen working group that helped the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife formulate its draft plan. Blankenship co-authored a working group minority report that recommended a threshold of eight breeding pairs.

For comparison, Oregon's plan would allow wolf management to begin at seven breeding pairs

"I think the proposed number wolves must reach in Washington before they can be managed is high compared with other Rocky Mountain states that have more suitable habitat and lower (human) population densities," said Tommie Petrie Jr., another group member and hunter who lives in Pend Oreille County.

"The faster we can get to management status, the better off the wolves are going to be, no matter where you stand," he said.

Scientific backing can be found to support the broad range of these conflicting viewpoints.

Three anonymous wolf experts, their locations undisclosed but apparently from North America, were contracted through the University of Washington for a blind peer review of the state's latest revised draft plan.

"For many of us in the conservation world, the peer review comments are what we'd hoped for," said Linda Saunders, Wolf Haven's conservation director. "They've mirrored a lot of our concerns: mainly that the number of pairs the plan cites as substantial enough for recovery (15) is not based on science. At the minimum maybe we should be looking at twice that number."

Blankenship, Saunders' boss, tends to favor letting nature run its course, although he acknowledges that Washington's wolf-sustaining deer and elk herds should not be equally compared to those in Montana or Idaho.

"Even if you left wolves alone and stepped in only to take care of depredation, there probably would be room for only a couple hundred wolves in Washington," he said. "Some scientists say the habitat and prey base isn't there.

"Will the wolves turn on livestock?" he said, anticipating the next question. "We don't know. They multiplied much faster than experts expected in the Northern Rockies. Only time will tell how fast they will multiply in Washington."

That leads to the draft plan's other hot topic: compensation to ranchers who lose livestock to wolves.

"The compensation package for livestock growers is outstanding," Field said, "but without funding, it's an empty mandate and little more than bait to get livestock producers on board. So far there's no commitment to funding, so there's no support from the livestock community."

Sportsmen's groups contend the proposed plan is too vague on how much wolves would be allowed to gnaw away at already struggling deer and elk herds.

"Hunters and the economy they support don't appear to have much standing in the plan, the way I see it," said Duane Cocking, a working group panelist and member of Safari Club International.

When the working group meets for the last time in late summer, the livestock grower and sportsman contingents will try to make the case that so-called Population Viability Analysis should be given more weight in the plan.

This effort to balance social and biological aspects of wolf management is generally supported by the blind peer review.

"PVA looks at all factors that would influence a specific area or game management region," said Field. "The PVA would consider ungulate herds, hunting and existing harvest, for example, as well as livestock, and then move forward in a holistic fashion."

Environmental representatives likely will come to the final meeting holding firm to a minimum of 15 breeding pairs or more.

WDFW officials have been chary to be specific on changes as they've pored through nearly 7,000 public comments this spring.

However, they indicated they won't be swayed in a major way by the 51,000 e-mail comments channeled to the Washington governor's office by the Defenders of Wildlife.

"All comments are considered," said Rocky Beach, WDFW wildlife diversity manager. "But you have to use common sense when you categorize comments; there's a lesser weight to all that duplicity."

Oregon Fish and Wildlife Department's wolf coordinator warns Washington that much can change as the wolf plan enters its last stage.

"After two years and the largest public involvement process our agency had every undertaken," said Russ Morgan in La Grande, "our (Fish and Wildlife) Commission made more than 200 changes to the draft before adopting the plan."


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: washington; wolves
Environmental representatives likely will come to the final meeting holding firm to a minimum of 15 breeding pairs or more.

Of course they will. Wolf Haven International and Defenders of Wildlife are only concerned with wolf numbers, livestock depredation and elk and deer populations mean little to them.

1 posted on 05/30/2010 3:29:35 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
"Will the wolves turn on livestock?"


2 posted on 05/30/2010 3:36:18 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jazusamo

I say wolves should remain a protected species until they’ve eaten at least half of all the socialists in north america.


3 posted on 05/30/2010 3:51:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Not a bad idea and that half would take care of about 99% of the enviro-nazis.


4 posted on 05/30/2010 3:56:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This sort of thing makes my head hurt and heart ache...how stupid can these people be? Fat dumb and happy Starbucks Mental ward candidates now wish to decimate game animals in the West so they can feel better about the state of the wild?

Madness.


5 posted on 05/30/2010 3:57:18 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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Agreed...The enviros say wolves are a part of the eco system but with the numbers of humans in the lower 48 they are not needed and that system has gotten along just fine without them for 70 or 80 years.


6 posted on 05/30/2010 4:07:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The ecosystem gets along quite well without wolves.

Only the insane, or the academented, claim wolves are a better method of controlling herbivore populations than hunters.

Only the warped and perverted would prefer to have deer and elk slowly eaten alive by wolves. Yes, Virginia, wolves have to eat them alive because they are too small to kill rapidly and with mercy as do hunters.

The crucial issue is the use of “Endangered Species” alleged need for ‘critical habitat’ to justify the socialization of America.

Hunters pay to kill off surplus animals.

Wolves cost megabucks to do a far less controlled killing.

Think of a wolf pack not as loose cannons, but as “bloodthirsty beasts of the field.”

Such terms were good enough for the conversations between G*d and Moses.

Good enough for them is good enough for me.


7 posted on 05/30/2010 4:19:24 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: jazusamo

Catch ‘em in the Rockies, release them in Georgetown.


8 posted on 05/30/2010 4:20:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo

Wolf burgers.


9 posted on 05/30/2010 4:21:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GladesGuru

Well said, excellent post!


10 posted on 05/30/2010 4:27:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: padre35

I wonder if anyone has thought to reduced the quota of deer to be harvested (via hunting permits) to compensate for the wolf kills? I have a suspicion the answer is no.

Dogs can increase in population extremely fast when food is not a limitation. 15 breeding pairs? Gimme a break. The rate canines reproduce there’s no way to know when that number is surpassed or when numbers are brought down to that level.

15 breeding pairs can theoretically produce 120 pups per year which is potentially another 60 breeding pairs PER YEAR added to the wilderness if the food sources hold up and there’s no predation or hunting of wolves and no infant mortality.

Figure we start with 15 young breeding pairs with no offspring. A wolf pack consists of a mother and a father and the offspring(which leave to start their own packs around age 4). figure an average of 4 pups per litter that survive to adulthood. By year 4, each breeding pair has 16 “children”, 4 of which are ready to leave home. That means every breeding pair is churning out 2 breeding pairs per year once the ball gets rolling by the 4th year


11 posted on 05/30/2010 4:43:22 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: jazusamo

Thanks, glad you liked it.

I wondered if the Blankenship at the Wolf Huggers R Us bunch was related to teh veterinarian who signed off on the capture report of a juvenile “Endangered Florida Panther”?

That report noted such details as the animal was not lactating.

Given that the “female” had its tail arguably attached with the two ‘nuts’ prominently fastened just below the tail, one wonders about anyone with that name.

Falsification of a public document comes easily to bureau-scientists. The Project Leader, one Deborah Jansen (A.K.A “Lil’ Debbie”, the intellectual Twinkie) said the reason for the error was “we were in a great hurry to reunite the family”.

Lil Debbie was lyin’. The capture reports state that the juveniles were given their wake-up injection 15 minutes before the mother cougar got hers. Such injection timing is standard procedure for a reason.

Seems that if Momma Dearest wakes up first, she may eat a juvenile. After all, she is a bit woozy - and the juvenile IS made of meat and defenseless.

PS Falsification of a Federal Document is a felony, but where is a Prosecutor or Prosecutrix when you need one?

PPS Lil’ Debbie was best described by a friend’s 11 year old, a blond tired of blond jokes. She read the capture reports and the falsified Annual report and said: “It’s because of people like her that I have to listen to blond jokes.”


12 posted on 05/30/2010 5:14:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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Hah! Don’t know a thing about this John Blankenship other than they say he’s a retired USF&WS biologist, they left off of his title “enviro nutjob” and wolf hugger. Sounds like from what you say about ‘Lil’ Debbie they could be related. LOL!

I believe your friends 11 year old daughter is one smart 11 year old for saying, “It’s because of people like her that I have to listen to blond jokes.”

She nailed it!

The State Fish & Game Depts and USF&WS have been gradually being infiltrated with enviro nutjobs and they may even outnumber the common sense old school people now.

Lord help us!


13 posted on 05/30/2010 5:36:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Enviro-socialism impaired employees in the game agencies are normative. Lil Debbie is matched by Jennifer Churchill in the Colorado Game Agency, and these are but two that I recall off the top of the moment.

As for the “nailing” the 11 year old did, that is not at all unusual for the gifted.

Another 11 year old was walking in a slough, calf deep in water, and watching a flock of wading birds through my camcorder. She said the following:
“Islam has been attacking the Christian world since it began. The only thing that saved it was the science the Church fought against for so long. What I want to know is why we don’t use our nuclear advantage while we still have it.”

Good question.


14 posted on 05/30/2010 5:50:54 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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