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Apparition: ‘fantastic message’ imparted to self-proclaimed visionary (Marian Apparition)
The Irish Times ^ | May 12, 2010 | Tom Shel

Posted on 05/19/2010 3:16:09 PM PDT by shibumi

FOLLOWING A period of intense prayer during which he knelt on damp grass as he gazed heavenwards at Knock shrine yesterday, self-proclaimed visionary Joe Coleman claimed he had been imparted a “fantastic message” by Our Lady.

Jabbing his finger at a cloudy sky, Mr Coleman said: “I seen her there and I seen her there. She did make herself known.”

Although reluctant to go into any details about the “message” he had received, Mr Coleman did say the Blessed Virgin had been angry about the way he had been treated by shrine authorities.

He complained that he and his followers had not been allowed to pray as they had wished in the Apparition Chapel, “part of the largest shrine in the world dedicated to Our Blessed Lady”.

About 200 people attended yesterday’s event, a much smaller turnout than previous “visions”.


TOPICS: Religion; UFO's
KEYWORDS: apparition; fatima; joecoleman; marian; mary
For discussion, opinion.
1 posted on 05/19/2010 3:16:09 PM PDT by shibumi
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To: shibumi

I saw Jesus in a piece of toast once.

Okay it was actually a picture online and it was just a long haired guy with a beard.

Might have been a Hells’ Angel now that I think about it.

Was that even a real piece of toast? Might have been a cinnamon roll....


2 posted on 05/19/2010 3:23:13 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Quix; MarkBsnr; Salvation; NYer; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; boatbums

General interest ping.


3 posted on 05/19/2010 3:25:32 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo (the Wily One) signed up for the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: shibumi

Opinion?

With this nation in the mess it’s in, the last thing we need is idolatry and paganism.


4 posted on 05/19/2010 3:26:48 PM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: shibumi

People wear sunglasses to shield their eyes from the sun as Joe Coleman from Dublin prays at Knock shrine in Co Mayo yesterday, where he claimed he had seen the Blessed Virgin Mary.


5 posted on 05/19/2010 3:33:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: shibumi

I once heard that they were selling autographed pictures of Jesus. They were in black & white so I decided against buying them. B&W in the 21st century? I knew they were fake.


6 posted on 05/19/2010 3:36:03 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: Jedidah; shibumi; JoeProBono
The Catholic Church generally does not "approve" of these visions, and when it does, even then it does not call people to believe in the reputed apparition as a matter of faith, but only certifies that there is no apparent attempt at fraud, and that nothing in the alleged message is contrary to faith and morals. (So it's a very limited, kind of "negative OK.")

I think it was scholar Rene Laurentin that estimated that there were --- ballpark --- 20,000 reported Marian apparitions since 1917? And the number given even the limited "negative approval" by the Church? As I remember it, 3: one in Akita, Japan; one in Rwanda; one in Syria.

Bottom line: no belief in apparitions is required "de fide"; and in most cases, the Chhurch authorities (i.e. the local bishops) emphasize either (1) there's not enough evidence pro or con, or (2) caution with regard to the so-frequent errors of wishful thinking, imagination, or mistaken perception.

7 posted on 05/19/2010 3:48:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."--P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: shibumi
FOLLOWING A period of intense prayer during which he knelt on damp grass as he gazed heavenwards at Knock shrine yesterday, self-proclaimed visionary Joe Coleman claimed he had been imparted a “fantastic message” by Our Lady.

He forgot to mention the part about mushrooms in the cow pasture.

8 posted on 05/19/2010 4:18:20 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: Grunthor

Yeah I remember the Jesus pancakes on ebay..man I couldnt stop laughing. People are nuts.


9 posted on 05/19/2010 4:51:19 PM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Jedidah
With this nation in the mess it’s in, the last thing we need is idolatry and paganism.

Sound advice. Are you going to take it anytime soon?

10 posted on 05/19/2010 4:57:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: shibumi

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 05/19/2010 8:14:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: shibumi

Will check it out.

Have received and begun the two excellent texts summarizing and detailing the

VERY EXTENSIVE,
VERY SCIENTIFIC,
VERY FULL OF INTEGRITY

RESEARCH EFFORTS INTO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AT FATIMA.

I didn’t know that 3-4 occult groups PUBLISHED IN 4 PORTUGESE NEWSPAPERS A FEW DAYS TO SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THE EVENTS OF FATIMA A GENERALIZED DESCRIPTION OF SOME SUCH DRAMATIC OCCURRING AND THE DATE THE FATIMA INCIDENTS FIRST BEGAN.

I find that very telling.

Also, as I’d come to understand, it was OTHERS, not the children, WHO INSISTED THAT THE PERSONAGE THEY’D SEEN WAS MARY.


12 posted on 05/19/2010 10:05:22 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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