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To: PugetSoundSoldier
“At best, he may be prevented from running in 2012, but there is nothing that’ll toss him out now because his eligibility is changed at some future point.”

Obama’s campaign waived a statement that his father's children were governed by the BNA of 1948 like a red flag for all to see, yet he was inaugurated, which is a disgusting shame to me personally. I assign a probability near zero any chance that he will be removed or even prevented from running again by a SCOTUS ruling that Obama is not NBC due to his father.

Obama may have been so bold knowing that his parent's bigamous marriage might argue that he had sole legal loyalty to his single mother's country at birth and thus no legal foreign influence that John Jay warned about to Washington.

There remains, however, something that will toss him out and that is any proof that he was born outside the USA, which would also be an NBC violation, especially if if could be proved that Obama fraudulently concealed that fact. Other frauds, such as representing himself as a foreign student or social security number fraud could also trigger non-NBC risk of impeachment.

This is the eventuality that Obama shows every sign of fighting hardest to prevent, and he displays a high degree of conscious guilt that a non-USA birth is true by his refusal to release his contemporaneous HI vital records.

I believe that FReeper’s investigations and historical research do inform the legal cases that are still pending on both the paternal citizenship and birth location cases and can aid the lawyers in those cases in the fight to gain standing for discovery of the HI vital records. That is very much worth fighting for!

713 posted on 05/18/2010 5:17:35 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama’s campaign waived a statement that his father's children were governed by the BNA of 1948 like a red flag for all to see, yet he was inaugurated, which is a disgusting shame to me personally

To me it means nothing; the US does not care what another nation claims on you, only what you claim for yours. If another nation claims you as their citizen, and you do not recognize that claim, then that is good enough. The "dual citizenship" is a non-issue because President Obama never claimed it as his own.

There remains, however, something that will toss him out and that is any proof that he was born outside the USA

On that I completely agree, and is the only reason I'd want to see the birth certificate. It has nothing to do with his father's citizenship or even the fact it was an illegal marriage (not recognized). If he wasn't born here then - by either Vattel OR English common law - he's not a natural born citizen.

715 posted on 05/18/2010 5:24:26 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Seizethecarp

NICE STATEMENT!


749 posted on 05/19/2010 10:37:07 PM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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