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To: El Gato
Not sure what CCK stands for - we were at Taipei for a year, then Taichung.

Living in Indonesia isn't disqualifying, nor is going to a mosque nor having an Indonesian stepfather - who probably had far more influence on Barry than Barack Sr.

In honesty, being a NBC probably was a poor idea for how to ensure loyalty to the USA, although it may have made some sense for the first 100 years. Beyond that, the electorate SHOULD prevent America-haters from becoming President, but JFKerry and Obama are evidence that a large part of our population hates America, or feels guilty for American success.

I don't have an ounce of white guilt in me, so that may be why I don't understand the election of Obama. It is beyond me how anyone could be tempted to ever vote for anyone who attended Rev Wright's church - not for President, not for trash collector!

My Filipina wife and I have a pretty comfortable life now, but we also worked our tails off. I worked 12 hour days as normal in my military career, and was deployed 5-6 months each year for much of it. My wife put in 20 hour days going to nursing school, and trying to learn medicine in her third language...while raising teenage kids while I was in Saudi or Turkey.

We don't have the life we now have because I'm white or because she is brown. We've worked and saved, lived in rentals much of our life, bought cars for cash and drove them until we literally gave them away. We don't have TV and maybe once a month eat out at a place where the meals top out at $12...so what makes others think we've 'won life's lottery'?

I paid $4000 in property taxes last year while home schooling my youngest daughter at our own expense, and on Tuesday, AZ has a ballot initiative to increase the sales tax 18% 'for the children'! The local school district gives free laptops to kids, and then wonders why they can't make ends meet????

We just sent $5000 to my wife's family in the Philippines so they can buy farm land and WORK their way out of poverty. THAT is charity I understand - not giving to bums who sit on their butts and wait for the next handout!

No, I don't understand modern America. The average credit card debt is around $8000, but since half of cardholders don't have debt, that means about half of them have CC debt of $15,000+. They spend evenings watching American Idol and playing video games, then wonder why they aren't getting ahead in life. Then they vote for someone who they KNEW hated America, and capitalism, and freedom, who wants America weak and wants to actively kill anyone who survives an abortion - WHY??????????

The problem with Obama isn't his Kenyan father. It is his marxism and class hatred and racial hatred - and ALL of that was KNOWN beyond doubt BEFORE the election!

I don't understand it, but it won't be beaten in the courts. If we don't win at the ballot box, there will be nothing left to 'win'. The courts won't save us.

Sorry for the rant. It is largely immaterial to the discussion, but my wife is sleeping after working her 12 hour night shift and I'm left thinking about how much my country changed during my 52 years. My Dad entered the military as a teenager in WW2, and worked his way up to Colonel with a HS education. Had he lived, I don't think he would recognize the country anymore...

In a flight suit in Taichung 1965:

Being a tourist with my sister 1965


340 posted on 05/16/2010 12:06:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Bless you, Mr. Rogers. Don’t let these people get you down.


342 posted on 05/16/2010 12:30:46 PM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Mr Rogers
Ching Chuan Kang Air Base (CCK) is/was the Nationalist Chinese base on Taiwan that the US used as a logistics support base during the Vietnam war, as well as earlier and later. Runways shared with Taichung Airport.

Living in Indonesia isn't disqualifying, nor is going to a mosque nor having an Indonesian stepfather - who probably had far more influence on Barry than Barack Sr.

Never said it was, and I agree, at least in part. Barry himself seems to have made his image of BHO senior a big influence on his life.

349 posted on 05/16/2010 1:18:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Mr Rogers; All

> I worked 12 hour days as normal in my military career,
> and was deployed 5-6 months each year for much of it.

Ditto. And thank you for your service.

But that still doesn't change the fact that you're utterly WRONG about NOT questioning Obama’s Constitutional legitimacy, as well as offering Obama (the enemy) “aid and comfort”, even though you claim to be working against him.

In case you haven't noticed, there's A LOT of military vets on this board, and a claimed picture of YOU in uniform does not change the fact that you ARE providing HELP and ASSISTANCE today to the enemy you claim to despise.

If you have some sort of screwed-up moral objection to those Conservatives who DO question Obama's Constitutional Eligibility, then I politely suggest that you just shut up and stay out of the way. Otherwise, do not CRY FOUL when YOU receive collateral damage because you're standing TOO CLOSE to the ENEMY!

Even McCainthe RINO that he is ... despite ALL of his faults today — poignantly understood that you never, ever, EVER offer “aid and comfort” to your enemy.

What are YOU doing, offering aid and comfort to YOUR enemy, Mr Rogers?


Your priorities — and sense of reality — are FUBAR if you think you're NOT.


355 posted on 05/16/2010 2:58:21 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Mr Rogers; BP2; El Gato

You identified your wife as a Filipina..was she a US Citizen when your children were born?


364 posted on 05/16/2010 3:28:00 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Mr Rogers
In a flight suit in Taichung 1965

I see he was a Starfighter pilot. That's really something. Probably the most difficult of the Century series aircraft to fly. Like the F-16 it was sold all over the place, including the Turks, Greeks, Italians, Germans, Nationalist Chinese, plus others. But unlike the F-16, not used so much by the USAF.

Was your Dad an instructor? That doesn't look quite like a standard US flight suit of the period, especially what I guess is the rank insignia.

Our long time pediatrician, when the girls were young (now 35 and almost 30) is a Filipina. Our previous one was Thai. She switched to allergy and immunology, and became our allergist, at least one of the nurses was also Thai. Her husband was our GP, he is Thai too. The ladies all had good English, even the nurse, but Mr. Dr. K was really difficult to understand at times, but I still trusted him with the scalpel applied to a very delicate region, if you know what I mean.

The problem with Obama isn't his Kenyan father.

Except Constitutionally, you know as in "support and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic". If his Kenyan father had been naturalized before he was born, there would be no issue, at least from me.

387 posted on 05/16/2010 6:28:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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