[John Leland 1789]

” . . . But, pros and cons of the FairTax are sort of off topic here. Perhaps we can discuss it further on one of the FairTax threads.”

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Wrong! Not off topic here. The point is that we must learn from what our sweet ELECTED representatives did with the Social Security System to scam generations of Americans. We must look at the history of it and LEARN, and act upon what we learn. And they continue to lie to us like the CRIMINALS that they are.

We are duty-bound to make the applications as they come up and as we are aware of them.

ONE VALID APPLICATION: Fair Tax! What they did with their power to set and then increase and increase some more, the rates in the matter of Social Security, they will do with ANY system -— tax or otherwise. So what is the rate Mr. Boortz says should be the national sales tax rate?

Whatever it is, were it to become law, our modern congresses would increase it incrementally-—and add a VAT. The rate would never remain the same, it would continuously increase. And the returns from the Fair Tax system would be be modified down to nothing as well.

[foxfield]

You say you have a problem with the FairTax, but your problem seems to be really with legislators who will abuse any tax system. It is up to the voters to put a stop to it.

Having a transparent tax system would help, which is a good reason to like the FairTax. Under the FairTax voters and taxpayers would see how much the government takes with every purchase they make as contrasted to the hidden costs and forced compliance with other tax schemes. So, what don’t you like about the FairTax that is not a problem with other tax schemes and how does that relate to the topic of this thread?