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Oil Spill Insights from a Retired Manager of an Offshore Underwater Service Company
The Oil Drum ^ | May 8, 2010 - 10:40am | Gail the Actuary

Posted on 05/10/2010 10:51:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It must be damn cold down there. Interesting. I don’t recall any articles quoting the sea floor temp of the water in this area.


21 posted on 05/10/2010 1:27:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Somewhere I recall 1 degree C is the temp.


22 posted on 05/10/2010 1:35:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So where almost at zero degrees. 1.8F. A bit colder then I would have suspected. We need some global warming “hidden heat in the oceans” to quickly warm things up for the BP folks.


23 posted on 05/10/2010 1:51:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: patton

The venturi effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect


24 posted on 05/10/2010 2:00:42 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a buddy who has an idea I think would work to stop the leak. He built a prototype this morning, and it works great. We just can’t figure out who to pitch it to.


25 posted on 05/10/2010 2:11:08 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: Deaf Smith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle


26 posted on 05/10/2010 2:20:03 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: patton

Yes.


27 posted on 05/10/2010 2:25:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Hey, no fair going all laconic on me!


28 posted on 05/10/2010 2:27:08 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gulf Oil Spill A Geoint Community
29 posted on 05/10/2010 2:28:30 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Thank You God for Freeing the Navy Seals)
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To: patton
The end result is still the removal of heat from the low pressure containment dome?
30 posted on 05/10/2010 2:58:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, you know chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why wouldn’t this idea work: Take a piece of small diameter pipe (say 1” or smaller). I’m assuming the pipe leaking the oil is not much bigger than 10”. Put an air fitting on the top end of the small pipe. Along the pipe, drill a small hole in the side. Clamp a bladder around the small pipe (a section of heavy duty balloon tubing, maybe made from the stuff the balloons were made of to float the 767 up from the Hudson), above and below the small hole drilled in the side. You could do this 2 or three times, depending on the length of pipe. Run compressed air (or compresses whatever)to the fitting at top of small pipe. Insert the small pipe down into the leaking riser, and send the air into the small pipe. The bladders inflate, sealing the riser, and all the pressure is going out against the leaking pipe. We made a prototype this morning with a half inch piece of copper pipe, drilled a hole in the side, clamped a piece of rubber inner tube above and below the drilled hole. Then we pumped water through a 6” piece of PVC pipe. When we stuck the copper pipe in and put the air to it, it immediately sealed up the pipe, totally. We could carry around the water filled PVC pipe by the copper one, no leaks. What’s wrong with this idea?


31 posted on 05/10/2010 3:02:33 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: genetic homophobe

The well casing is 20” diameter and twisted like a pretzel. Plus the well was reported to be a 40,000 psi formation.


32 posted on 05/10/2010 3:07:13 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Well it doesn’t look like much pressure pushing oil out of the casing, no doubt due to the tremendous water pressure at that depth. You wouldn’t need it to be straight. You could push the smaller pipe through the leaking oil and inflate it.


33 posted on 05/10/2010 3:18:52 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach.


34 posted on 05/10/2010 3:35:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Deaf Smith

Evaporation is a heat-losing process.

Dump alcohol on your hand, your hand will get cold, as it evaporates off.

Swimming pools in AZ are FREEZING cold, because the water evaporates off so fast.

So, if you offgass methane hydrates fast enough, you can freeze anything.

I am beginning to suspect that is what went wrong - they tapped into a high-pressure methane reserve, and when it blew - low pressure. So evaporation, just like in a fridge.

Or, by reducing the pressure on frozen methane, they could have caused it to boil over - causing a big blow.

Remember, the freezing point is not fixed. It depends entirely on pressure (think cake recipes in Denver).

Note - I am not an oil-driller guy. Just reading what gets reported.


35 posted on 05/10/2010 5:50:19 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: genetic homophobe

Try pitching it at the link below.

Horizonsupport@oegllc.com


36 posted on 05/12/2010 5:55:46 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

Who’s email address is that?


37 posted on 05/12/2010 7:05:11 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: genetic homophobe

That is the address for BP’s Deepwater Horizon suggestion box.


38 posted on 05/12/2010 7:29:26 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

Will do, thanks


39 posted on 05/12/2010 9:04:43 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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