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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

Here is the case:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22488868/ANKENY-v-GOVERNOR-OF-THE-STATE-OF-INDIANA-APPEALS-COURT-OPINION-11120903


2 posted on 05/08/2010 12:30:16 PM PDT by Retired Intelligence Officer
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For starters the Indiana Appeals Court lied when they purposely said Chester Arthur became president when his father was a foreigner and was not challenged on it. The fact of the matter is that Chester Arthur successfully hid the origins of his birth while he was president, and to maintain the secrecy beyond his death he burned his personal documents in an attempt to not tarnish his legacy. The Indiana Court leaves these pertinent facts out to mislead people into thinking Chester Arthur set a precedence for future presidents.


31 posted on 05/08/2010 12:56:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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See:

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/article_4da2bd4c-62b3-556f-a97c-8c3009013129.html

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INDIANAPOLIS | The Indiana Supreme Court will not hear the case of a Roselawn man who claimed President Barack Obama was constitutionally ineligible to be president.

Bill Kruse, of Roselawn, along with Steve Ankeny, of New Castle, sued Gov. Mitch Daniels in December 2008 to stop the governor from certifying Indiana’s electoral votes for Obama. Their lawsuit was dismissed by a Marion County court, and that decision was upheld in November by the Indiana Court of Appeals.

The state’s high court voted unanimously this month to not hear a further appeal.

Kruse and Ankeny claimed Obama does not meet the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born” citizen, because Obama’s father was a citizen of the United Kingdom at the time of his son’s birth in Hawaii.

Unlike other claimants in the so-called birther movement who deny Obama was born in Hawaii, Kruse and Ankeny argued that any U.S. citizen born of a parent who is a citizen of another country can never be president.

The Indiana Court of Appeals said it didn’t find support for that argument in its reading of the U.S. Constitution. The court ruled that “persons born within the borders of the United States are natural born citizens, for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

Daniels certified Indiana’s 11 electoral votes for Obama on Dec. 8, 2008. Obama beat U.S. Sen John McCain, R-Ariz., in the electoral vote count 365-173.

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57 posted on 05/08/2010 2:17:30 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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It is a requirement that the president and vice president be natural born citizens of the united States. However, we have not been operating under the Constitution since FDR incorporated The United States of America, a Washington D.C. corporation, and I don’t think it matters what you are to be a corporate officer. IMHO, neither Barry Goldwater - born in the Territory of Arizona, or John McCain - born in a local hospital in Panama Canal Zone, are technically NBCs, although exceptions were made for both. Since it’s happened before - Chester Arthur - just move along, there’s nothing to see here. Odd that BO lost his license to practice law for not stating he had been known by another name, and attended Occidental College as a foreign exchange student with a Fulbright Scholarship, but there is something deeply wrong with you if you question his NBC status. Personally, to me NBC means born on American soil to American parents. I think Bobby Jindal is native born, as his parents weren’t born here but he was, and would therefore not be eligible to run for president. I think you would find children of military born on foreign soil, not a base, are also native born and not eligible to run for president. The devil is in the details. The only court that has jurisdiction over this question is the Federal Court in Washington D.C. so don’t sweat what Indiana decides.


60 posted on 05/08/2010 2:32:57 PM PDT by CaraMiaR (Excuse me, I have to adjust my aluminium hat.)
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An easier to read link to the Indiana opinion is here:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

Obviously, folks who believe Obama is disqualified by his father don’t like it. It is worth noting, however, that no state attorney or legislature has challenged it, nor any federal court ruled different on any case presented. No member of Congress dissented, and neither McCain nor Palin have ever said that Obama’s father disqualifies him from office.

The WKA decision can be read here:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

The dissent on that it interesting, and can be read by clicking the link for the dissent at the top of the web page.

I’ve spent much of the day with a pick and shovel digging holes for trees and fences, and haven’t the patience to debate birthers, most of whom need to register as a religion so they can post on the religion caucus pages.

You will find to question is to be branded a heretic.


96 posted on 05/08/2010 9:02:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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