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To: PugetSoundSoldier

“Really? They don’t have to abide by US laws? Their parents won’t get ticketed for running a red light, or arrested for robbing a 7-11? Foreigners are exempt from our laws, from the jurisdiction of the US while here in the US?”

Don’t be absurd. The examples you cite are criminal laws, and everyone present within the US is bound by them. The “jurisdiction” referred to in the Constitution relates to one’s national status (i.e., which nation has jurisdiction over the party as a citizen or subject).


36 posted on 05/08/2010 1:42:00 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
Don’t be absurd. The examples you cite are criminal laws, and everyone present within the US is bound by them

I see. A traffic infraction is a criminal offense? Because there are foreigners here - legally - who are exempt from US jurisdiction, meaning traffic, civil, and criminal offenses: diplomats and representatives of foreign Governments here on official business. In fact, Senator Howard was quite clear in that fact.

So, what person is here that is not subject to US jurisdiction, other than such diplomats and officials? Perhaps a review of the definition of jurisdiction is called for before you answer.

I'd be most interested in where you found the meaning of jurisdiction that you claim; it must reside in the Constitution somewhere.

Or, do you hold the protections afforded in the 14th Amendment means that we can go out and rob, beat, and kill any foreigner on our land - whether here legally or not - because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Government, and thus do not have the protections of the Constitution (per the 14th)?

37 posted on 05/08/2010 2:05:51 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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