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FDA Raids Amish Farmer Dan Allgyer

Posted on 04/22/2010 2:54:13 PM PDT by EllenMarie

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To: afraidfortherepublic
If it is any comfort to Dan, that is the way a lot of Govt. agencies act.

Exactly. That's what regulatory agencies do. They love to send out what they call "regulatory letters."

I think it's not unusual to hear nothing from them again. But once a year they go up to Congress and brag how many they sent out, followed by a request for another billion of our tax dollars.

41 posted on 04/22/2010 3:52:24 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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To: EllenMarie

are Amish people allowed black powder firearms? IIRC the range on a Sharps 50-120 was pretty good.


42 posted on 04/22/2010 3:52:43 PM PDT by henry_reardon
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To: Rebelbase

YEs I know. Then when they shoot the dogs you have PETA on your side, CASE CLOSED!


43 posted on 04/22/2010 3:54:59 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Darksheare

I’d bet they haven’t thoroughly checked out what growth hormone does either.


44 posted on 04/22/2010 3:58:04 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: driftdiver

LOL...it’s a farm in maryland. My mother lives there, according to her they’ve built working centers(not sure what they are called)for the illegals. So they have a place to go while they wait from someone to pick them up for work.


45 posted on 04/22/2010 4:01:29 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: EllenMarie

If you think it is bad now.

See: HR2749 FDA Food Takeover

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2406579/posts

To look at the bill, click on the header with HR2749.

Look at how your congressmen in your state voted on this monstrosity.

It passed the House, but has not passed the Senate.

This is an awful power grab by the FDA.

Regulation of food is stated to be about public health, but it is really about CONTROL.


47 posted on 04/22/2010 4:05:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: secret garden

So don’t drink it. But allow others to make the choice for themselves.


48 posted on 04/22/2010 4:09:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MsLady
How many of us were either raised on it or at some point in our lives drank it with no ill effects?

I'd drink it straight from the cow, if she'd let me. ;-) Good stuff.

49 posted on 04/22/2010 4:16:24 PM PDT by wvguy (Montani semper liberi)
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To: EllenMarie

The milk processing monopolies don’t want any competition.


50 posted on 04/22/2010 4:18:53 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: patriciaruth

You cna’t get strep throat from raw milk. Unless some strep carrier spit in your glass when you weren’t looking.


51 posted on 04/22/2010 4:21:25 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: nkycincinnatikid

My mother fed me unpasturized milk when I was a baby.

I’ve been drinking raw milk since I was 3 days old. The only thing I’ve ever gotten from it is strong bones.


52 posted on 04/22/2010 4:24:19 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: patriciaruth

‘I got really bad strep throat from it, which spread to my sister.”

Ok I wont ask how it spread to your sister. ;)

Its safer to pasteurize it, but the govt is treating it like its anthrax or something.


53 posted on 04/22/2010 4:25:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
We had OSHA make a call on us by guys with the same attitude.

LOL I got into it with OSHA to the point of a shouting match over some forms we did not fill out and I work for another federal agency! He even threatened me which is not a good idea.

54 posted on 04/22/2010 4:26:32 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: wvguy
I'd drink it straight from the cow, if she'd let me. ;-)

She probably would..most of the time. But, as old bossy is wont to do, every once in a while, she'd kick you in the head.

One kicked my grandmother in the arm and broke it. But as soon she got the cast on, grandma was back out there milking her. Probably gave her a few good whacks first though, just to remind Bossy who the real Boss was. :) .

55 posted on 04/22/2010 4:27:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: secret garden
There has just been an outbreak of severe illness, resulting in coma, from drinking raw milk. This could be a public health issue.

Yes, there is a legitimate risk from this, and I think it gets heavy focus from regulators because milk is so often given to infants and toddlers, whose immune systems aren't well-eveloped yet, and who are thus more likely to suffer severe harm from a milk-borne infection.

I think it's reasonable for the federal government to prohibit interstate shipment of raw milk across because 1) the Constitution does give the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce, 2) no state government has formally objected to this federal law (and in this particular case, it appears that the farmer is shipping into Maryland, creating a violation of Maryland law re raw milk, so the FDA is in effect helping uphold Maryland's sovereignty as well), and 3) this federal law does not prevent any person from legally obtaining raw milk if they want it. Dairy cows can live in any state and supply demand within that state, to the extent state law allows it (and especially with raw milk, it's a heck of a lot safer to purchase it locally, so as to minimize the additional bacterial growth that may occur during a more extended transit time, and more hand-offs from dairy to distributor, to subdistributor, to retailer, to consumer, each with a potential for partial loss of refrigeration.

I would have a much bigger problem with the federal government prohibiting interstate commerce in something that cannot reasonably and practically be produced in every state (e.g. something requiring a major investment in manufacturing technology, that can only be profitable if manufactured and sold in quantities larger than most states' separate markets for it). But as for raw milk, anyone who wants it and is having trouble getting it, should take up the matter with their state government.

56 posted on 04/22/2010 4:28:34 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: driftdiver

Nope, the key here is the isolated low-tech farm and family. No power, no witnesses, no threat.


57 posted on 04/22/2010 4:28:40 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: freedomfiter2

And probably what your dentist would call an excellent extrusion.


58 posted on 04/22/2010 4:28:56 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: driftdiver

Easy on the inuendo there man!
Most likely a moose bit his sister.


59 posted on 04/22/2010 4:31:01 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: nkycincinnatikid

When I was 17, I seriously broke by leg and my doctor said he’d never seen bones heal that quickly.


60 posted on 04/22/2010 4:32:08 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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