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Question about the proposed immigration law in Airzona
04/20/2010 | TMMT

Posted on 04/20/2010 5:24:54 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Arizona has proposed a law, giving law enforcement the authority to stop anyone they suspect as "illegal".

Now you can look silly and try to deny it, but we all know this is nothing more than government sanctioned racial profiling. Its a green light for cops to stop anyone who who appears foreign or more specifically Hispanic.

We already have enough problems in this country with law enforcement conducting searches absent probable cause in the name of the almighty War on Some Drugs. Frisking and searching people because they might be armed, not that the cop saw something he/she can articulate as a possible weapon, but they might have, could have been armed. The USSC just smacked LE again, because they continue to think they can search anyone and everyone in a car simply because they were in the car when it was stopped for a tag light violation. The just ruled (again) that passenger are not required to give officers ID during a traffic stop. The third time such a ruling as been handed down.

It seems that cops are already very capable of violating our constitutional rights without the tacit permission of the state of Arizona.

So why in the hell are conservatives so eager to embrace the this constitutional violation while calling for the heads of anyone who even dare attempt to enact any type of gun restriction. Even if that restriction is in the name of public safety or the safety of law enforcement.

This is a dangerous and slippery slope in this country.

I agree that illegal immigration is a problem, so is crime committed by illegal immigrants.

But so is crime committed by our citizens too. In fact to a much larger and greater extent that all crimes committed by hispanics combined.

This will be found unconstitutional, mark my words.

It wreaks of some of the laws and decrees passed by the Nazis during the 1930's.

Whats next our very own Night and Fog Decree?

Come on folks wake up and stop missing the forrest for the trees. GIving the police what amounts to carte blanche to stop anyone and everyone because they look like they might be illegal is a nightmare waiting to happen.

Between this and the new software program that IMB is working on, Criminal Prediction Software what the hell is happening to this country??!?!

And I'm shocked at the number of people who call themselves conservatives who support such draconian laws promoting constitutional violations1


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To: HiJinx

“Why don’t you come on down to visit me for a few days. I think it would be an eye-opener for you.”

I live in Texas and understand the issue.


61 posted on 04/21/2010 1:24:06 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: HiJinx

Issue a crappy ruling and then claim “stare decisis”...it’s the leftist way.


62 posted on 04/21/2010 3:21:11 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
The supermajority of the crimes that you just described are committed by our very own citizens. And according to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report blacks commit a disproportionally high number of our crimes than any other race. “

QUIT Spreading Lies...................
Illegals commit more crime than all the other citizens put together. "In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal alien" http://www.terroristplanet.com/2010/02/illegals-committing-crimes-in-america-june-2008/ Illegas are SCUM lawbreakers of the worst kind.

63 posted on 04/21/2010 4:37:23 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: EnglishOnly
QUIT Spreading Lies................... Illegals commit more crime than all the other citizens put together.

Care to read this, the reassess your position of calling me a liar?

From the US Census Bureau... Blacks account for 12.8% of the entire US population, Hispanics account for 15.4%. Whites, Asians, Native Americans account for the rest, just over 70%.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Now the FBI UCR reports that in 2008, 10,662,206 crimes were committed in the US. 7,382,063 were committed by whites, 3,015,905 committed by blacks, 142,908 by Native Americans and 121,330 by Asians.

That equals out to whites who make up about 72% of the population committing 69.2% of the crimes.

Blacks who make up 12.8% of the population committing 28.3 of the crimes

And all other races accounted for 2.4% of crimes committed.

See for yourself

FBI UCR HOMEPAGE: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html

64 posted on 04/21/2010 5:22:09 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The Census Bureau........???

Who reports crime to the Census Bureau.........
Illegals don’t want the Census Bureau to know they are Illegal.

Your stats are not only flawed they are fitctional.

I think if you check into any Law Enforcement agency I’m sure you will quickly learn ........
Care to read this, the reassess your position of calling me a liar? NO, You don’t want to face the truth. Which is...

“• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-fl/TPFET4HPQU714S37C

Wake Up!


65 posted on 04/22/2010 4:32:23 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: EnglishOnly

Oh good grief.... are you that blind?

I cited the CENSUS BUREAU for the population stats.

If you had read anything I posted you would of seen where i cite the FBI FOR THE CRIME STATS.

Or did you just ignore that because it completely debunks your little fantasy that hispanics are committing every single crime in the US.

My stats are fictional??!?!

So what, do I work for the CENSUS BUREAU and the FBI and my job is to fabricate this stuff, somehow manage to get it posted to their official websites just so I can use it in an argument against fools like you?

I’m sorry but you are putting forth one of the dumbest straw man arguments I’ve ever seen.


66 posted on 04/22/2010 5:12:39 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: EnglishOnly

And furthermore the post you have referenced is an unreferenced post to a forum, a blog of some kind.

But if you do a search for the New Century Foundation, the groups the poster is talking about you will find this little gem.

Even they say that Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit crimes than whites. WHile Hispanics will commit crimes 3 times more than whites.

S by using your own references it still supports my claims.

Here read for yourself, using the reference in your link.

http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html


67 posted on 04/22/2010 5:17:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

You are a walking JOKE!

“Still think illegal immigration is a “victimless crime” and we don’t need to control our borders? Remember, about 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported”

Research this........
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html

Idiots like you are what is ruining America........

Why don’t you move to Mexico...........???

You would be dead in an hour.....that’s why!


68 posted on 04/22/2010 6:21:18 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: EnglishOnly
Remember, about 60% of the crimes being committed are by illegal aliens who were previously deported” Research this........ http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html

No where on that website is that specific claim supported in any way.

The only thing on there that even comes close to being a legitimate supported claim is the "testimony" by (District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on immigration, Border, Security and Claims)

and then even he conceded that his stats were localized at best.

"In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens."

Keep pedaling your little racist fantasy of an America where only those you like are allowed to live.

69 posted on 04/22/2010 6:38:08 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
“Keep pedaling your little racist fantasy of an America where only those you like are allowed to live. “

Now I'm a racist...........

But you are not. What you are is a Moron!
You choose to sit there and defend someone’s first act upon entering this United States is to trample on the very Sovereignty of the Laws and Statutes of my Country.

Then you have the Gall to sit there and tell me they're some kind of good person?

You are nothing short of a Traitor and you have just displayed it in your previous posts by completely ignoring the fact that these people break our laws from day one. What post do I need for you to understand .......they are ILLEGAL!

Nobody is above the law. YOU enter a country legally or you are breaking the law.
No LINK NEEDED for people that are Coherent.

End of STORY .... Borders Language Culture!

70 posted on 04/23/2010 1:29:45 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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