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Ancient Aliens - Premieres Tuesday April 20 at 8/7c (History Channel)
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Posted on 04/18/2010 3:03:57 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

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To: SunkenCiv
The problem with the pyramids is that any idiot with sticks and a string could have laid it out.
61 posted on 04/18/2010 5:34:55 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: Quix

Out of curiosity you wouldn’t know of some link or other clues about “complexes around the world indicate knowledge of a star in the Orien constellation which was not known or visible until the modern era.”

Thanks in advance


62 posted on 04/18/2010 5:35:53 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: MHGinTN; PIF; Quix

They’re piles of rocks. Enjoy your extraterrestrial fantasy.


63 posted on 04/18/2010 5:37:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama: Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg)
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To: PIF

Well put.

However, ignorant, simplistic, naysaying perspectives seem to abound with great brazenness and tenacity in these parts.


64 posted on 04/18/2010 5:38:02 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: silverleaf

A Comparison of masonry techniques from around the ancient world.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/constructiontechniques.htm


65 posted on 04/18/2010 5:39:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: PIF
Egyptogist Flinders Petrie (1853–1942), whose father was a believer. When Petrie went to Egypt in 1880 to perform new measurements, he found that the pyramid was several feet smaller than previously believed. This so undermined the theory that Petrie rejected it, writing "there is no authentic example, that will bear examination, of the use or existence of any such measure as a ‘Pyramid inch,’ or of a cubit of 25.025 British inches."[6] WIKI, your post.
66 posted on 04/18/2010 5:42:40 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Fascinating, alright.

I don’t know that it begins to explain even 50% of everything about the pyramids etc.


67 posted on 04/18/2010 5:48:20 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

“...a star god named Amma...”

Hmmm. ‘Amma’ is the Icelandic name for grandmother. How strange.


68 posted on 04/18/2010 5:50:05 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: PIF

Very fascinating.

Obviously done by two drunks with boards and ropes.

/sar

Oh, right, that’s crop circles.

/sar


69 posted on 04/18/2010 5:55:24 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now you’ve gone and done it.

Do you have your hazmat suit on?

How many military folks did you know who were . . . aware . . . either from jobs or personal experiences . . . of the realities involved with UFO’s . . . any of the significant . . . ‘other’ sorts of realities . . . i.e. ‘other than’ conventional human capacities and explanations???

How long have you had awareness thereof, been interested in such and related topics?

Where do you think it’s all headed?


70 posted on 04/18/2010 6:01:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL.

GREAT HUMOR.

THX.


71 posted on 04/18/2010 6:06:16 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: muir_redwoods

What makes you ASSUME I entertain extraterrestrial fantasies about the pyramids? ... I still believe the blocks were poured in place.


72 posted on 04/18/2010 6:06:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: silverleaf; PIF
Your credulousness must be nearly infinite to swallow the "facts" on that 'timtouse' pyramid site without an entire salt mine's worth of garnish (forget about the proverbial grain of salt). The half-dozen "facts" I've checked (reference books of real facts do actually exist) so far are, without exception, wildly inaccurate, leading me to view all of his other assertions with deep skepticism.

Just one example will suffice: 'timtouse' claims that "The average height of land above sea level for the earth is 5,449 inches. This is also the height of the pyramid." 5,449 inches equals 454 feet -- of course, I'm using a standard calculator, which does not, as far as I know, render in "pyramid inches," whatever that ludicrous measure may represent. Unfortunately for 'timtouse' and his believers, the actual average elevation of the Earth above mean sea level exceeds 2,000 feet, or more than 24,000 inches; precise average elevation figures are surprisingly hard to determine, because sea level, the referent for determining land elevation, varies by time, location, relative positions of the Sun and the Moon and the resulting tidal vectors, and other factors.

Moreover, 'timtouse' is equating his false earth elevation with an approximation of the current height of the pyramid. When completed, it is generally calculated that the pyramid stood more than 480 feet in height. His hilarious 'average world land elevation = height of pyramid' statement would not, of course, have been true when the pyramid was completed -- unless those brilliant alien builders cleverly calculated the erosion of the pyramid's height eventually would yield a height of 5,449 inches in 2010.

Instead of swallowing nonsense whole, perhaps a little time spent checking such claims might be of more benefit.

73 posted on 04/18/2010 6:07:06 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: BCR #226

VERY WELL PUT.

THANKS.

BTW, have you read the peer reviewed scientific journal articles about the crop circles in agricultural journals?

They document several scientifically verified VERY UNIQUE features of the authentic ‘other’ sorts of circles.

1. extremely brief microwave type radiated/heated plant nodes
2. extremely fine grained iron particles

3. magnetic anomalies within the circles that are not present outside them and not in hoaxed circles.
4. seeds from within circles sprout quicker and are more resistent to drought—significantly so compared to seeds from without the circles or from hoaxed circles. They may also grow taller and more robustly, quicker.

5. IIRC, the nature of the bending of the plant stalks is significantly different and difficult to produce by hand.
6. The ground within the authentic circles tends to usually be extremely dry—as though it were baked bone dry—regardless of how wet the surrounding field was and regardless of any rain that occurred purportedly during the making of it.

Of course, the naysayers hereon never seem to be troubled by facts—particularly scientifically verified facts such as the above—in their SCREAMING for scientific analysis.

Evidently a 2nd hobby to such screaming is that of being chronic hypocrites.


74 posted on 04/18/2010 6:17:23 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MHGinTN

I think you’re a better psychologist than I am.

I don’t understand that compulsion . . .

unless I recall the features of REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER related angst and a perverse kind of contrariness that delights in throwing sand on birthday cakes and pushing kids over who are learning to ride bikes.


75 posted on 04/18/2010 6:19:31 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: PIF

I’m sure

http://www.abovetopsecret.com

had some threads on such.

And,

http://www.standeyo.com

may have something as well. I don’t keep such links handy. I satisfied myself that they were essentially correct in a gross outline sort of way long ago. That is, I think it’s inescapable that those monuments do somehow relate to Orien. I suspect they are somehow also tied into the Biblical GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES but that’s conjecture on my part . . . and the part of some scholars much better than I on such topics.

If I were going to dogpile.com it for you, I’d probably use these search terms:

“Orien” + ancient + monuments + Great Pyramid” + “Ankor Watt”

or some such.

Sorry I’m not of more help.


76 posted on 04/18/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: muir_redwoods

Folks from your perspective are the ones living in a fantasy world about a lot of facts evidently too uncomfortable to fair mindedly contemplate.


77 posted on 04/18/2010 6:24:20 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Love your screen name, was my favorite cereal back in the day. I still can't talk about what I know (and I left the service in 1983!!) but here are some quotes:

"Of course UFOs are real, and they are interplanetary. The cumulative evidence for the existence of UFOs is quite overwhelming and I accept the fact of their existence." -Air Chief Marshall Lord Hugh Dowding, Commanding Officer of the Royal Air Force during WWII

"I can assure you that, given they exist, these flying saucers are made by no power on this Earth." -President Harry S. Truman, 4 April 1950, at a press conference.

"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. For instance, in the LA case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." -J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director.

"I certainly believe in aliens in space, and that they are indeed visiting our planet. They may not look like us, but I have very strong feelings that they have advanced beyond our mental capabilities." -Senator Barry Goldwater (1965)

It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors and it was about the size of the Moon. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. -President Jimmy Carter

"I looked out the window and saw this white light.It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, Have you ever seen anything like that? He was shocked and he said, "Nope." And I said to him: "Let's follow it!" We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it." -President Ronald Reagan (Describing his 1974 UFO encounter to veteran newsman Norman C. Miller, then Washington bureau chief for the Wall Street Journal.)

"We have contact with alien cultures." -Astronaut Dr. Brian O'Leary

"The phenomenon of UFOs does exist, and it must be treated seriously." -Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev

"The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious" -General Nathan Twining, Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958

"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth." -Colonel L. Gordon Cooper (Mercury 9,Gemini-5 Astronaut)

"I've been asked about UFO's and I've said publicly I thought they were somebody else, some other civilization." -Commander Eugene Cernan, Commanded the Apollo 17 Mission. (Los Angeles Times, 1973)

"In my official status, I cannot comment on ET contact. However, personally, I can assure you, we are not alone!" -Charles J. Camarda(Ph.D.) NASA Astronaut

"Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens as many people believe, and the Government is hushing it up." -Professor Stephen Hawking

"Let there be no doubt. Alien technology harvested from the infamous saucer crash in Roswell, N.Mex., in July 1947 led directly to the development of the integrated circuit chip, laser and fiber optic technologies, Particle beams, Electromagnetic propulsion systems, Depleted uranium projectiles, Stealth capabilities, and many others! How do I know? I was in charge! (A matter of public record)I think the kids on this planet are wise to the truth, and I think we ought to give it to them. I think they deserve it." -Colonel Philip Corso, Army Intelligence officer, former head of the Foreign Technology at the U.S. Army's Research and Development department at the Pentagon and former director of intelligence on President Eisenhower's White House National Security Staff

"Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela." -Monsignor Corrado Balducci, Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope. Monsignor Balducci is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.

78 posted on 04/18/2010 6:25:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

I assume

that when dealing with such complexities over large time distances and large dimensions

and a range of very human conjectures involved with such . . .

there will be LOTS of things that are wrong and sometimes, some things that are right.

Are you saying that you really do not think there’s anything to do with Orien in terms of such ancient monument complexes and their configurations more or less exactly as the stars in Orien’s system?


79 posted on 04/18/2010 6:28:14 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ConservativeTeen
The History Channel showing a program about aliens? Who would have thought? I miss the days when the History Channel actually televised shows about actual history.

Amen! I stopped watching the History Channel a little while after they got into this UFO craze.

It is almost a pity, because I do enjoy watching some of these pro-UFOist programs (or reading pro-UFOist books) once in a while. If you read it like scifi, it can be fun plus it makes some good imagination fodder for my own fiction.

But at some point, it is just too much.

80 posted on 04/18/2010 6:33:16 PM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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