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So are the ad hominems being slung around so freely supposed to make me acquiesce? I'm not insecure about my intellect. It's rare for a mathematician, in fact.

Fine, then use the liquor analogy then.

First, I will note that you admit that your first analogy was flawed. Second, I will argue against that one since Utah does not, in fact, ban alcohol by any stretch and it is easier to obtain there than in Pennsylvania.

Making something like marijuana easy to obtain just across the free state border undermines the rights of the state that wants to ban the product and its effects. In order to give that state the rights to which their citizens are entitled, the state border would have to be monitored. If the state does it, then the legalizing state is putting a burden on the state that wants it to be illegal.

You need to broaden your sources of information.

Why? Reason is the most widely circulated journal of libertarian opinion. It answers the question "What are libertarians thinking today?" If I have to dig in other journals, it means that I'm looking for fringe opinions.

Please name for me one Federal law that was repealed during the "Republican Revolution." Just one will do.

Just one? "Congress lifted all federal speed limit controls in the November 28, 1995 National Highway Designation Act, fully delegating speed limit authority to the states."

While you're at it [gee, a pot enthusiast assuming everyone else has unlimited time on their hands, who woulda thunk it? --ed] name for me one Agency, Department, or Bureau which was abolished, defunded, and made no more. Take your time. I'll wait.

"Congress passed various deregulation measures in the 1970s and 1980s. In 1995, when most of the ICC's powers had been eliminated, Congress abolished the agency." The ICC is the Interstate Commerce Commission.

Ah, there is a light on in there. I thought as much.

I am sorry. I made unwarranted assumptions about your intellect.

You will if you get rid of the dole. Work or starve. That's the Libertarian philosophy I subscribe to.

I am a professional research mathematician and even I don't have as little contact with the real world as this. Do you think you are really just going to impose this on people in our system? Let alone after people have decided that being hazy, poor and lazy is OK as long as Uncle Sam buys your food and you can scrounge enough for that stuff that gives you the munchies?

Hell, you guys haven't been able to put a dent in the welfare state for 80 years now.

Wait, I'm wrong. You do complain that other people aren't doing enough. I guess that's something. Complaining.

the state border would have to be monitored.

Ever drive from Nevada into California? There are Agricultural border checkpoints everywhere. You need to get out more.

If the state does it, then the legalizing state is putting a burden on the state that wants it to be illegal.

Cry me a river. There are literally "dry" neighborhoods in Dallas. I suppose you'd like to make the entire City of Dallas ban alcohol so the poor widdle dry neighborhoods aren't unduly burdened. The same thing is true in Kentucky at the County level. So you best get busy destroying the Bourbon industry in Kentucky.

People like you always have a thousand reasons why Liberty won't work. It'd be fascinating if it weren't so poisonous.

Reason is the most widely circulated journal of libertarian opinion.

If you say so.

Congress lifted all federal speed limit controls in the November 28, 1995 National Highway Designation Act, fully delegating speed limit authority to the states."

Mighty big of them. Got another?

The Interstate Commerce Commission you say. Well be still my beating heart. One whole Commission....wow...talk about your bold steps. Don't go for everything in one bite now. Best to take a few decades to get rid of another one.

Remind me again how many the Republicans got rid of under Bush?

Do you think you are really just going to impose this on people in our system?

And yet you're perfectly content to impose the opposite system on the rest of us. Here's a clue Mr. Research Mathemitician; 47% of Americans no pay zero income tax and almost 40% are being paid some sort of Federal 'benefit'. Crunch those numbers and get back to me.

I'm sick of paying for slackers to slack, and I'm sick of paying for babysitters to watch them. Legalize all of it and sell it to anyone over 18 in five pound sacks at Safeway. Conversely get rid of every single 'benefit' from Food Stamps to direct welfare payments to 'free' emergency medical care.

Put all the poison you want into your body but pay for it AND the effects and leave me the hell alone.

Hell, you guys haven't been able to put a dent in the welfare state for 80 years now

And your Republicans have done such a bang-up job of denting it. Hell, they haven't even scratched the paint. In fact they added the largest Federal 'benefit' since frigging LBJ. Yea, they've got the moral high ground on this health care thingy after expanding Medicare to levels Johnson couldn't have dreamed of.

Wait, I'm wrong. You do complain that other people aren't doing enough.

That's because you're not. And complaining about the Republicans is far better that what the Republicans have been doing for the last 15 years, namely making the problem worse.

You're being intellectually dishonest.

There is a whole list of items that certain states regulate more heavily than others.

Alcohol

Tobacco

Firearms

Fireworks

Pornography

Gambling

Prostitution

etc.

Marijuana would just be one more item on the list. I think that many people who oppose legalization are closeted Puritans that if they could would ban alcohol and tobacco. They desire to force others to live by the same strict moral code that they do. A sort of Victorian morality with an excessive amount of snobbery and prudery.

I tend to prefer a live and let live moral code, where negative behavior is handled/corrected through social ostracism instead of the heavy and expensive hand of government which ultimately limits the liberty of all Americans.