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Can a Vegetable Garden Save You Money?
Iowa State University ^ | 3/2/2009 | Cindy Haynes

Posted on 04/05/2010 11:30:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Red_Devil 232

#109 was for you, too. For some reason the ‘paste’ into the “To:” box didn’t register.


121 posted on 04/05/2010 4:47:59 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: TNdandelion

My tomatoes also have their second set of leaves. I planted them under lights 2-3 weeks ago. My calendar is at home, and I’ve forgotten the exact date. My peppers are small and were planted at the same time, but were slow to germinate.

I have a seed starting bench in the basement with grow lights and a heater to keep the room at about 71 F. When they come upstairs in the south facing window, the day time temp gets alsmost to 80F with nightime holding at 71F. The little greenhouse is a lightweight affair that is as tall as I am with 4 shelves in it. THey seem to love it in the window.

There is a zipper door that I can open and fold back when it gets too hot. My window is large and extends almost to the floor, and it is boxed out about a foot.

So, I have set the back legs of the greenhouse on the broad windowsill and the front legs on stacks of books to make it level. When I am within 2 weeks of the last frost date, these babies will go out on the front porch for day time, or into a cold frame. The wind caught my cold frame and smashed it last Friday, so it needs repair.


122 posted on 04/05/2010 4:58:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Can I have that recipe? I never have much luck with canning pickles.


123 posted on 04/05/2010 5:02:38 PM PDT by JRochelle (My predictions on 2/3/2010: It will be Thune/Rubio in '12.)
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To: Free America52

#10- That sounds great


124 posted on 04/05/2010 5:04:37 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: MWestMom

It has to be a very sturdy shepherd’s hook, or it will fall over. That is one of the reasons I’ve never tried those upside down tomatoes. My sunny porch is 2 stories high with no place to hang the apparatus.

One of my questions has always been how to water the darn thing. Once you hang it high enough to keep the tomatoes off the ground, how do you reach and pour? You must need a special water wand.

This year I saw a special rig for the topsy-turvey tomatoes. It is similar to a 4 arm hanging basket holder that I have. That way the weight of the tomatoes is balanced in 4 directions. THere is a similar one on the cover of Gardener’s Supply, but it’s pricey.


125 posted on 04/05/2010 5:07:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Black Agnes

Didn’t know that, mine are dwarfs 2 died last year in a matter of days. I had 2 kinds, that much I knew about. Still learning about some things. I did that with my black berries, stuck pots under them and put some canes in them and kept them watered well. We’ve got sprinklers on timers for that area. Makes life easier.

Nut grass is my biggest problem, bought the nut grass killer, even put it on full strength and it didn’t kill the suckers, didn’t even wilt them! Dug a ton of them up, they just keep coming back.


126 posted on 04/05/2010 5:09:47 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Thurston_Howell_III
Not to mention that you’ll have to claim the value of the veggies (since it is income...minus costs to plant and raise of course) on your taxes.

Nope; doesn't work like that.

Just like when we raised and showed dogs, it is a "hobby", because a "prudent person" doesn't not make any, let alone an "adequate" profit 3 years out of 5 to qualify for deduction of business expenses.

That meant ALL of the income from sales of puppies and stud fees had to be reported, but NO expenses were allowed to be deducted!

This would be the same: Retail value (based upon the average of the 3 highest priced sellers in the area, no doubt!) of all produce counted as income; no deductions for any expenses, including the state and local taxes paid on that same produce.

I know how governments work.

OTOH, they may just choose to file a "cease and desist" order, confiscate your "illegal" produce, and fine you several times the value of your crops, for violating state &/or U.S. Ag Dept 'commodity board' orders, under the Interstate Commerce Clause...like they did to a guy during the Depression, for growing his own personal-use wheat that never left his farm; SCOTUS upheld.

The rationale was that by growing his own wheat, he was "interfering" with agricultural Interstate Commerce by reducing the national demand for commercial wheat by the amount he wasn't buying!

127 posted on 04/05/2010 5:17:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Oddly enough, none of the melons was bruised or harmed in any way by slipping off to the ground.

Use for old nylons: Slip it over the melon, and fasten the top to the trellis.

The melon still slips freely, but the nylon stocking keeps it from hitting the ground.

Recycle to less ripe melons after each use, until too worn out to use.

128 posted on 04/05/2010 5:52:39 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: Graybeard58; Red_Devil 232; gardengirl; All

People obviously THINK they can, because my sales are through the ROOF at the Garden Center. Seriously. We thought LAST year was busy, but we are having days already this spring where we’re TRIPLING sales from the previous year on the same day! Great Googly Moogly I’m tired at the end of the day! And here I thought it was just because I’m getting old, LOL!

We can’t keep enough seeds in stock. We can’t keep enough potatoes and onions in stock. We keep running out of cow manure, LOL! And seriously, we are increasing our orders from the warehouse just to stay ‘slightly behind’ demand. ;)

It’s insane!

I’ve read a lot of articles in recent publications that ‘say’ you can grow a few thousand dollars worth of food from an average-sized garden. I’ve done it when I ws home full time and the kids and the garden were my sole responsibility...but there IS a learning curve for new gardeners. The local media interviewed me 4x last year...I’ll bet they start calling me this week for more info/interviews. It’s FREE advertising; you bet I’ll do it!

And new gardeners will have SOME successes despite themselves...but really, how much kale and how many cucumbers and summer squash can you eat? LOL! (I hate kale...)

I’m very HAPPY to see people wanting to be more self-sufficient. We’ve gotten way too far away from that these past two decades, IMHO.

Here’s a terrific article. Yeah, yeah. It’s from that hippie wasteland ‘Mother Earth News’ but just take what you can from this article. The author is one of my favorites and one most trusted, no matter WHO publishes her:

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gardening/Square-Foot-Gardening-Food.aspx

Enjoy!


129 posted on 04/05/2010 6:13:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Use for old nylons: Slip it over the melon, and fasten the top to the trellis."

Absolutely great method, but I had so much going on, I left them on their own. It was really an experiment anyway, I was told that I couldn't grow melons on a trellis like my cucumbers and winter squash, and telling me I can't do something is the quickest way to get me to try it. Additionally, being a tomboy country girl, I don't have that many old nylons. ;-)

Pieces of old pantyhose are also great for tying tomatoes, peppers or eggplants to a stake. The stretchiness gives as the vines/stems grow and the plant doesn't get damaged. I use this wonderful velcro tape in my garden because it is so fast to cut a piece and tie something up, but it doesn't "give" at all and I've had to go back and spend time re-adjusting or replacing the velcro ties.

130 posted on 04/05/2010 6:13:40 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Sax

“It’s really nice to be in the kitchen making dinner and pausing for a quick step outside to collect some ingredients.”

That does rock! We’ve already had new potatoes with fresh chives from the garden. Love it! :)


131 posted on 04/05/2010 6:14:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A true story!
132 posted on 04/05/2010 6:15:42 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: JRochelle
"Can I have that recipe? I never have much luck with canning pickles."

You may, but please give me time enough to find a copy of it and put it back into my computer. My old computer died in February and I had no backups.

133 posted on 04/05/2010 6:17:40 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Maverick68

Homegrown Tomatoes - Guy Clark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-QzLIjL1u4


134 posted on 04/05/2010 6:18:05 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; ApplegateRanch
One of those sentences above should have read that the stretchiness gives the vines/stems room to grow ...

I try to type too much too fast sometimes. Sorry.

135 posted on 04/05/2010 6:20:24 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; JustaDumbBlonde

I’ve never gardened or canned for the money saving aspect, if I figured it that way, it would probably be a money loser for me as I give away so much of it.

I enjoy eating what I grow and enjoy other people eating what I grow.

My B&B pickles won’t get me to Heaven but they make me pretty popular with my fellow church members!

Hat tip to “JustaDumbBlonde”


136 posted on 04/05/2010 6:28:04 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That sounds awesome. Unfortunately, I don’t have the money or the space at home for such a setup. I pop the seeds and dirt in the soda bottles and put them out on the back porch until I see “green” leaves. They are my miniature (and super cheap) greenhouses.


137 posted on 04/05/2010 6:30:59 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: JRochelle

I forgot to ask whether or not you had the Ball Blue Book of Preserving, because it is packed with recipes for pickles, jams, jellies and just about anything else you could put in a jar. It contains info on dehydrating and freezing as well. Every recipe I’ve tried was very good, and it is not an expensive book at all — I think I paid $7-8 at WalMart.


138 posted on 04/05/2010 6:33:54 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Graybeard58; JustaDumbBlonde

“My B&B pickles won’t get me to Heaven but they make me pretty popular with my fellow church members!”

Oh, yeah. B*B’s are the best!

‘Justa’ and I exchanged jellies this winter. What a treat! :)


139 posted on 04/05/2010 6:34:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

People obviously THINK they can**

LOL We’re getting lots of “Walmart” shoppers. Good intentions, but they don’t have a clue. We maxed out our credit card machine Sat and today.

I’m tired at the end of the day!**

My daughter, SIL, and both grandkids live with us. One gbaby is 3 and he sits on my left at the supper table. The other is almost one and he sits on my right. The other night, I nodded off at the table—while holding a spoonful of food out to the one year old! Think my crowd didn’t laugh?

We can’t keep up either. The bookkeeper came in the other day and did the sales tax for me cause we’re so busy. She said, “I think these numbers are wrong.” I just looked at her and laughed. I told her, “Everything I entered in the computer is right. We have been BUSY!”


140 posted on 04/05/2010 6:36:44 PM PDT by gardengirl
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